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07/30/2009: "Is memorizing a form of art?"


Teaser
Does writing the theory of relativity from memory make one a math genius?
Let us distinguish between outstanding memory capabilities and phenomenon of art, as we do between crafting the rook and playing chess...

..."Stephen Wiltshire, ma main man"

Do the innate absolute criteria of fine art judge Stephen Wiltshire's art, or is it only the jealousy of one private subjective ego?
Stephen Wiltshire became famous after appearing in some TV show where he presented his remarkable photographic memory abilities. First, I would like to honestly state, that I am truly empathic and happy for his success and have nothing in person against him. He really seems like a cute guy. What I am more concerned about is the definition of art in regards to Stepen Wiltshire's abilities. I'll break this down to art's three basic components, as I perceive them.



The three aspects of fine art

Formation

Stephen Wiltshire's art scales from basic sketching lessons to advanced architectural drawings at the most. Some of his works are no more than elementary car design sketches or urban views. No innovation of technique and no originality in the perception of reality and it's translation to art. Just plain sketching you might see scattered abundantly around the internet.
Have you ever seen an architect or a car designer selling their sketches as works of art for prices ranging up to 13,000 pounds? I suppose not.

Content

Plain urban views or different motive transportations. No depths of issues, no message, no meaning, no purpose; just some "pretty things" to gaze at.

Awareness

Having evaluated the first two ingredients of fine art and concluded that they sum up to nothing in Stephen Wiltshire's case, we are left with the most important one of all.
How does an artist approach a work of art? Well, I assume that there are numerous subtle nuances which define each and every artist of the past, present or future, but the basic grid is the same: you approach art with deep awareness.

What is the motive, the purpose, the essence, the meaning? What is it that which you want to say and what atmosphere will help you convey that message? How will you create that atmosphere and how will the compositional architecture, color scheme, shape formations, light, textures and perspectives influence the atmosphere you are trying to create?

The deeper the awareness the deeper the message will be and the more profound the essence is. So also, the more subtle the philosophy and the more complex the theoretical aspects behind the art work, that much more spiritual awareness and conscious self-awareness must be respectively present in order to realize that work of art.

Let's see�

On the other hand, when all you want is to copy something from one place to another � with no emphasis on the technique and style, with no intent of purposeful content, with no awareness to the derivative criteria of creation � all you need is the hand-eye coordination awareness, hence the basic instinctual human consciousness.

So far as the context of art is concerned, there should be absolutely no meaning to whether the copying is from another picture using a translucent paper or directly from nature, or as in Stephen Wiltshire's case using the memory as the copying source. I mean, does writing the theory of relativity from memory make you a math genius?

..."So, you�you're the Rain Man?"

Being the artist an autistic-savant automatically boosted the value of his art, simply because there has never been in the recorded history of art another one like him. People might have said to themselves: "Well, there is nothing unique about his art, in neither venue, but hey, he's autistic and he remembers stuff� Oh hey, and it's just like that guy in that movie� I mean, wow!"

Well-greased marketing also helped to obscure from the art establishment and the general public the fact that actually, so far as art and artistic standards are concerned, there is nothing here to make so much fuss about. Had any other non-autistic artist presented such art to any respected gallery or museum in the world, I think that he would have gotten the cold shoulder.

Plainly saying, in this day and age art is mostly a gimmick, which without the appropriate marketing will not see the light of day, not to mention fortune and fame.

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Replies: 78 Comments

on Wednesday, October 7th, findigart said

Glad you liked it Art :-)

on Monday, September 28th, Art Smith said

Interesting article.

on Monday, September 14th, Tiffany Necklaces said

The 4th aspect of fine art is perhaps unfortunate but real. Like any item in any market, an item's value is determined by what people are willing to pay for it. We can argue about the creation of art for art's sake, but it is unlikely that Wiltshire would have gained any recognition without people buying his "art" for ever increasing sums.

on Friday, September 11th, Matt said

"Does writing the theory of relativity from memory make one a math genius?"

umm.. no not really. It's E=Mc^2

I think most people could manage that feat of memory.

on Sunday, August 23rd, Daniel said

PREHISTORIC - EROTIC ART: - http://www.arterupestre-c.com As we can see through different images, they had sexual intercourse with animals, homosexual relations and more than two people at the same time. http://www.arterupestre-c.com/1000.htm Venus - Venuses http://www.arterupestre-c.com/1000ven.htm There is o ne sculpture that is emblematic, found in 1908, after lots of research and different epochs being affirmed as the real o nes about this sculpture, now they believe it was done around 24,000-22,000 BC. It shows a woman with a large stomach that overhangs but does not hide her pubic area. A roll of fat extends around her middle, joining with large but rather flat buttocks, there's no face and seems that at this place there is a hat or even hair rolled up o n the head. Her genital area would appear to have been deliberately emphasized with the labia of the vulva carefully detailed and made clearly visible, perhaps unnaturally so, and as if she had no pubic hair. This, combined with her large breasts and the roundness of her stomach, suggests that the "subject" of the sculpture is female procreativity and nurture and the piece has long been identified as some sort of fertility idol. The fact that numerous examples like that of a female figure. All generally exhibiting the same essential characteristics - large stomachs and breasts, featureless faces, minuscule or missing feet - have been found over a broad geographical area ranging from France to Siberia. That suggests that some system of shared understanding and perception of a particular type of woman existed during the Paleolithic.

on Sunday, August 23rd, Daniel said

PREHISTORIC - EROTIC ART: - http://www.arterupestre-c.com As we can see through different images, they had sexual intercourse with animals, homosexual relations and more than two people at the same time. http://www.arterupestre-c.com/1000.htm Venus - Venuses http://www.arterupestre-c.com/1000ven.htm There is o ne sculpture that is emblematic, found in 1908, after lots of research and different epochs being affirmed as the real o nes about this sculpture, now they believe it was done around 24,000-22,000 BC. It shows a woman with a large stomach that overhangs but does not hide her pubic area. A roll of fat extends around her middle, joining with large but rather flat buttocks, there's no face and seems that at this place there is a hat or even hair rolled up o n the head. Her genital area would appear to have been deliberately emphasized with the labia of the vulva carefully detailed and made clearly visible, perhaps unnaturally so, and as if she had no pubic hair. This, combined with her large breasts and the roundness of her stomach, suggests that the "subject" of the sculpture is female procreativity and nurture and the piece has long been identified as some sort of fertility idol. The fact that numerous examples like that of a female figure. All generally exhibiting the same essential characteristics - large stomachs and breasts, featureless faces, minuscule or missing feet - have been found over a broad geographical area ranging from France to Siberia. That suggests that some system of shared understanding and perception of a particular type of woman existed during the Paleolithic.

on Saturday, August 22nd, findigart said

I guess you're right Adrian, but I also got to thinking that, hey, it's pretty difficult to remain truthful when you are offered a way out from everything you perceive as misery in this life - it's hard to give that up even for the sake of truth, that is even in cases you have the inner truth glowing within you...

on Wednesday, August 19th, Adrian said

I'm with Andrew on that one about 'not being able to do anything about these kind of scams'. The fact that this is a free zone where dealers can get away with just about any money making scam, could mean that we are yet to see some more gob smackers before anything gets done about it. The so called authorities are mostly also tied up in money making scams....so who can stop this. So far no one...ecept the artist him/herself not getting pulled into conformist ideas that dealers may present to them in the name of fame and money.

on Tuesday, August 18th, Adrian said

a self proclaimed spiritual master, once asked a mafia hitman in Catania, why he felt so guilty for bumping off the boss's opposition when after all its onlt consciousness 'killing' consciousness and that no one dies or is born anyway.

For sure its rough out there when there are all the wheelers and dealers trying to make a honest dishonest buck out of art.

on Tuesday, August 18th, Andrew said

Nothing. And neither does anyone else who wasn't directly involved. But I do know that pieces are not sold for this amount of money by the artists themselves. You don't get lucky, you don't find that special person willing to pay this much, you don't create something so unique that it in turn creates its worth.
A coup like this is the work of professionals, probably the best that are out there. And the best charge a lot for what they do. Sure Damian's rich, but group behind him is much, much richer. This is more complicated to pull of than Oceans Eleven was, and it requires many more specialists, each of whom must be paid well. Remember, industrial diamond dust is cheap, it just sounds expensive. I own a few dozen diamond blades for marble, and what do we do with them when they're dull? Despite all those glittering diamonds, we throw them away.

on Saturday, August 15th, findigart said

Andrew, 98 million disappeared? Were? I am not familiar with the details of this and besides it being a stupidly vast amount of money to pay for anything, let alone a polished skull with some glass dust glued to it, I did not think this was a Scam... What do you know about it?

on Saturday, August 15th, Andrew said

Do you really think the skull was sold for 100 million dollars? I don't. On paper it may look that way, but there is a lot hiding behind the curtain that led to the deal being on paper. Where did the 100 million go? You can bet your life it's not in Hirst's pocket. One, two million maybe. Ninety eight that disappeared. Still a great result for a scam no one's ever going to do anything about.

on Friday, August 14th, findigart said

Well, Zed, you know if his art moves you than that's it, that's all it takes actually. If one is consciously and aware of things and realizes for himself what and why he likes what he likes it settles it. But many don't, they are being fed the "PR con" as you rightfully call it and "like" the art because it's trendy to like it. Same as a any perfume or "Air Jordan" frenzy... :-)
And God only knows how a human skull covered with diamond power can be sold for a 100 million dollars...Stupidly crazy.

So what do you feel when looking at his works?

on Friday, August 14th, Zed said

Findigart you are absolutely right! Architectural drawings with carefully measured lines of rulers, soulless, lifeless depictions of elevations with no real sense of space and agenda don't move me. Wiltshire's works do. I don't see your comparison valid, but again I may be biased having been a fan of his works, and disregard his story for now. For the same reason I would never consider acquiring a Damien Hirst (even if I could), I am the least interested in the con art of PR and prefer real creative effort instead.

on Thursday, August 13th, findigart said

Hey Zed,

Well, what is style? compare his art to any architectural sketches. Are all these who draw them artists? what is the difference if any between an artist per-se and a car designer who beautifully illustrates the outlines and curves of an automobile? can it be that it resembles the difference between a calligraphic artist who stylishly depicts a mathematical formula and a mathematician who actually understands it?

on Thursday, August 13th, Zed said

What an interesting debate! However, a very important distinction has not been mentioned at all. Superior perception as a gift is one thing and the ability to actually put your agenda on paper is another. Even if I had eidetic memory myself would never be able to even imitate Wiltshire's style. Or maybe I am just not a talented artist.

on Tuesday, August 11th, findigart said

Thanks Markus :-)

on Tuesday, August 11th, findigart said

TO// Pop Art Gallery

Yes, I guess the point is rating, and whatever attains the high numbers in the box offices is acceptable. Quality has no more relevance to art these days than what I ate for breakfast.

The microwave approach to instant success has made art vapid, vain and amazingly superficial.

on Tuesday, August 11th, findigart said

Well, Lender, I couldn't agree more, as you can probably notice :-)

How is it you think that the rest of the world, including the "Art Establishment" can't see that which is so damn obvious?

on Tuesday, August 11th, findigart said

Hi Alicia :-)
Yes indeed, it is. By the way, I can;t remember where I put my art talent, have you seen it maybe? Perhaps next to my bullshit - I should check...

on Tuesday, August 11th, findigart said

Bla filmes: Are you a....SPAMMER??? :-O

:-)

on Tuesday, August 11th, findigart said

Hey Gry,

Well, that could be another topic to discuss. since I believe that art that is merely pretty is wasting my time - life is short. I would expect from anything in mt life to have a purpose, to serve me in acheiving my goals.

How about you?

on Tuesday, August 11th, findigart said

Hey SF,

Well than that is the point I was trying to make: Is memorizing the theory of relativity math? Is writing it down from memory without a hint as to what it is that you're writing math genius?

You tell me...

on Tuesday, August 11th, findigart said

hey there glass... :-) Jean Michel-Basquiat dies of an OD of Heroin after receiving news of the death of Andy Warhol...He did not have AIDS, but he was fu#$ed up enough as is was :-)

on Tuesday, August 11th, Pop Art Gallery said

It is a strange thing when someone is deemed a capable artist solely because of the media's tendency to sensationalize things. As said above, there is no reason to have anything 'against' this person, but it must be admitted that his artistic credentials are validly questioned by the rest of the community and are grossly inflated by the journalists who simply wish to promote something different.

on Tuesday, August 11th, Pop Art Gallery said

It is a strange thing when someone is deemed a capable artist solely because of the media's tendency to sensationalize things. As said above, there is no reason to have anything 'against' this person, but it must be admitted that his artistic credentials are validly questioned by the rest of the community and are grossly inflated by the journalists who simply wish to promote something different.

on Tuesday, August 11th, Lender said

I would classify memorizing as a skill or a talent, but it is most certainly not an art. While i appreciate his considerable skill, calling it an art is just absurd.

on Tuesday, August 11th, Alicia said

No memorizing is not a form of art, it is just a power, with which the brain can keep the images of things seen or heard, in the same place.

on Monday, August 10th, Markus said

great blog!!!

on Monday, August 10th, Blá filmes said

Nice blog!
Nous sommes solement une maison de production d´art, cella qui observe et registre le cotidien.

We are a production arts which observe and record the daily.

Nosotros somos una productora de artes dedicada a observar y gravar la expressión del cotidiano.

www.youtube.com/blafilmes

on Monday, August 10th, Blá filmes said

Nice blog!
Nous sommes solement une maison de production d´art, cella qui observe et registre le cotidien.

We are a production arts which observe and record the daily.

Nosotros somos una productora de artes dedicada a observar y gravar la expressión del cotidiano.

www.youtube.com/blafilmes

on Monday, August 10th, Gry Dla Dzieci said

I would not see memorizing a form of art. For me it is just another way of making things being remembered. I also can't see art in leaving notes on small, yellow pieces of papers sticked to the fridge. Art is something that comes from the heart not made to made something useful or handy. That is my opinion. Art could be making something handy more beautiful than it need to be.

on Monday, August 10th, SF said

just for the title... maybe it could be an art since a person has talent to do recapping what he read or captions from his vision..

on Monday, August 10th, SF said

just for the title... maybe it could be an art since a person has talent to do recapping what he read or captions from his vision..

on Monday, August 10th, SF said

just for the title... maybe it could be an art since a person has talent to do recapping what he read or captions from his vision..

on Sunday, August 9th, glass pendant said

Jean-Michel Basquiat?

Might be easier to ask MTLC but it's more fun guessing ...

on Saturday, August 8th, findigart said

although... after reading his bio at wikipedia, it doesn't seem to fit. he was diagnosed with AIDS only on 1988 2 years before he died and already after he gained international fame and success.

could it be that i'm missing something here? just curious

on Saturday, August 8th, findigart said

Yeah, I later thought it might be him... I really did not know that this was the story behind his success...sad.
And yeah, something has screwed up in the system here...

on Saturday, August 8th, glass pendants said

sorry about the multiple entries - there was a weird glitch when I submitted the post.

on Saturday, August 8th, glass pendants said

sorry about the multiple entries - there was a weird glitch when I submitted the post.

on Saturday, August 8th, glass pendants said

Findigart, I believe MTLC was referring to Keith Harring.

on Saturday, August 8th, glass pendants said

Findigart, I believe MTLC was referring to Keith Harring.

on Saturday, August 8th, glass pendants said

Findigart, I believe MTLC was referring to Keith Harring.

on Saturday, August 8th, glass pendants said

Findigart, I believe MTLC was referring to Keith Harring.

on Saturday, August 8th, glass pendants said

Findigart, I believe MTLC was referring to Keith Harring.

on Saturday, August 8th, glass pendants said

Findigart, I believe MTLC was referring to Keith Harring.

on Thursday, August 6th, findigart said

Hey Adrian,

Concerning the question of how to be truthful without the pretentious assumptions and phoney perceptions of morality... well that a good one.
It so seems, once you think about it, that even Hitler could now be sitting in Heaven chewing on some bubble gum because he really believed that tormenting and incinerating Jews is good for humanity. I have heard that doctrine once from someone I worked with.

What can I say, if that person himself does not feel the burden of harming others, does not have feelings of remorse and regret for having done damage to Creation - or in this case if Wiltshire is too dumb to realize what great harm he is doing to himself just for the sake of money, then I guess that respectively and from within the boundaries of jis constrained and limited deluded ego morality takes on the shape of: "whatever suit me and pleases me is OK". Sucks.

on Thursday, August 6th, findigart said

Hey Andrew,

Yes, there is indeed the seed of insecurity in criticizing others, I am very aware of that. And also criticizing those who are currently under the shade of the umbrella of consensus might do you harm, no doubt, but hey, I am here to try to be the most me I can, just to break it all apart a second later.
Yes, I am a bit jealous of that Wiltshire guy although I would not have traded spots with him no amount of fortune in the world. Life is hard enough as it is and I would to to get an easy going as well, especially when I see how much ignorance and incompetence can sell, so why not true quality?

Anyway, I would not have wanted to live the rest of my life concealed behind walls of publicity for fear of being revealed as a complete ******* and a total looser in the end. I mean, for someone that wants only to have some peace of mind at the end of the day that's not a proper way to live, even for the sake of great fortune and status.

on Thursday, August 6th, findigart said

Hey Andrew,

Yes, there is indeed the seed of insecurity in criticizing others, I am very aware of that. And also criticizing those who are currently under the shade of the umbrella of consensus might do you harm, no doubt, but hey, I am here to try to be the most me I can, just to break it all apart a second later.
Yes, I am a bit jealous of that Wiltshire guy although I would not have traded spots with him no amount of fortune in the world. Life is hard enough as it is and I would to to get an easy going as well, especially when I see how much ignorance and incompetence can sell, so why not true quality?

Anyway, I would not have wanted to live the rest of my life concealed behind walls of publicity for fear of being revealed as a complete ******* and a total looser in the end. I mean, for someone that wants only to have osme peace of mind at the end of the day that's not a proper way to live, even for the sake of great fortune and status.

on Tuesday, August 4th, Adrian said

well it looks as if both the artist being true to himself and the gangster, are being true to themselves. Its relative then.
I find it interesting what Andrew said about the pros objective is to do it without getting caught. It means that this appearance of life is free for all and all for free and we're only conning ourselves that theres a price to pay for anything. And like Shakespeare said,"to thine own self be true"...but I'd say that one has to be sure of what ones 'own self' is, in order not to get caught up in some kind of personal game with the rest of life.
So if you want to topple a giant with one stone, make sure that ther is no one throwing the stone in the first place...because if there is, you're going to fall with him sooner or later.
So how does one be true oneself without moralistic intention?...theres no answer to this. All the answers have only done is to make more confusion.

on Tuesday, August 4th, Adrian said

well it looks as if both the artist being true to himself and the gangster, are being true to themselves. Its relative then.
I find it interesting what Andrew said about the pros objective is to do it without getting caught. It means that this appearance of life is free for all and all for free and we're only conning ourselves that theres a price to pay for anything. And like Shakespeare said,"to thine own self be true"...but I'd say that one has to be sure of what ones 'own self' is, in order not to get caught up in some kind of personal game with the rest of life.
So if you want to topple a giant with one stone, make sure that ther is no one throwing the stone in the first place...because if there is, you're going to fall with him sooner or later.
So how does one be true oneself without moralistic intention?...theres no answer to this.

on Tuesday, August 4th, Andrew said

Actually, coming from a land where everyone's innocent until proven guilty, I can't say I'm certain 100% of this is a hoax. But even choosing what to present to the public and what not to, is a form of fraud that leads it by the nose to a false conclusion. All of us artists do this to this to some extent, agrandizing ourselves, or minimizing the accomplishments of those around us to make ourselves look bigger. It's not so much the quality of the work that counts as it is the buyers' perception of quality. Right now we are promoting Wiltshire's work in a big way by discussing it at all in a public forum, and in this way further supporting its acquired monetary value. That's pretty much what 'hi *********' did for the work of Alberto Sughi by revealing himself as a jealous loser; what was exceptional in that exchange was that Sughi responded, a gesture which confirmed his status as being genuine. I don't think we're going to see that from Wiltshire.
At the same time, its definitely not in our best interest as artists to portray ourselves as jealous losers, perpetually on a much lower rung of the ladder than the people we criticize. Our judgement may be valid, but if we have a stake in public opinion, then openly trying to change it might be commercial suicide. The pros objective is to do it without getting caught.

on Monday, August 3rd, findigart said

Well put Andrew. However I for one, really gave this guy the credit for memory, and even so it has got nothing to do with art or artistic talents. Memorizing is got to do with memory not anything else. Claiming otherwise and entangling one know to the other is at most the art of deluding people and nothing more.

But you went even further and said that this whole thing is a hoax. Could be, and it so seems, that after all I am not that hard to shock, cause this would really amaze me that the only gimmick this assumed artist is relying on is also a bunch of smelly baloney...

on Monday, August 3rd, Andrew said

I went and took a look at some Wiltshire drawings. They are not photographic renditions. If you look at 'Earl's Court' for example, you will note that the figures are all slim and slightly elongated, as they might be in an architect's drawing. This comes from academic training in illustration, and he has been a very good student. In another drawing, he uses perspective tricks on an underground train to create the illusion of volume, showing a curve up above and another down below the middle section of the train. This is another academic tool taught in many architectural drawing classes. His claims of flying above Tokyo in a helicopter and then drawing two hundred buildings and monuments from memory leave me thinking well, anyone who studies an aerial photo first and then flys above a city already knows where everything is. Having his own museum, and all those connections, makes me feel it's a hoax, because I've seen that kind of stuff many times before with other artists, and it's always been a hoax. I know what it takes to get this kind of fame...money!
The first comment is backwards...really it should read, 'it is unlikely that Wiltshire would have sold his art for ever increasing sums without an extensive and costly recognition machine paving the highway before him.' It's true that an item's worth is what people are willing to pay for it, but you can make them more willing by convincing them through well orchestrated PR and teamwork. Looking at these drawings, of the same quality as hundreds of thousands of student's drawings throughout the world, there's no way this guy got famous on his own. I know some teenage Polish girls who can do drawings like these, first year of college. They sell them to tourists in the main square of Krakow. Boy could they use a good agent to make up a story like this one, and then follow through with the museum connections.

on Monday, August 3rd, findigart said

Adrian, the distinction you have made between moralistic honesty and authentic honesty is absolutely precise. When I read this I felt the phrasing of something that I say many times but choose other words.

I would say that moral honesty lies upon the pretentious ideal of what one wishes to be or how he wishes to perceive himself or to be perceived by others - it lies upon self image. Authentic honesty is what one really is, beneath everything that matters to the ego. Takes a lot of courage to be that honest.

The question I am asking myself is what's the difference between the authentic honesty of the artist which sacrifices his own dream of success and perhaps his life in order to remain truthful indeed and the gangster who truly lives his desires without any hesitations or remorse just because they are true to him?

Is the deepest truth relatively and respectively available to each of us really good to others? What if not?

(by the way, I am going on vacation for the next few days so I will not be able to respond here. No offense :-) )

on Monday, August 3rd, Adrian said

thanx to Andrew for highlighting the plight of big bucks bull shit collectors intentions. Now thats a clever marketing ploy. But as you say, Findigart, keep the flame of the art of honesty alite...not necessarily moralistic honesty, because that in itself tends to overlook the bs underneath...but rather authentic honesty where 'value' is not descided by monetary value only. 'Cause if the value of art is only about how much one is willing to pay for it(as our Italian friends of glass put it) then its not about 'art' anymore, its about 'money'.

Lets keep it strictly 'Art' and see what happens. The collectors of money can go suck golden eggs while real art continues to be valuable in its own right of value...monetary and other.

on Monday, August 3rd, findigart said

Hey Reggae - thanks for cheering! :-)

And by the way, I don't know who MTLC and you are referring to...

on Monday, August 3rd, findigart said

Hi MTLC,

Think nothing of it, really - just a small misunderstanding. Glad you liked the post.

on Monday, August 3rd, findigart said

You know Adrian, I take pride in not being easily shocked, but I was shocked to read what you said. Although is really makes so much sense, you know... in this day in age when a mother here in Israel drowns her babies because they were crying too loud and a public debate arises on whether or not she should be released on grounds of temporary insanity... What is gimmickal art compared to that? It's nothing. Nothing, but the same low moral level that begets from a very dark and unfortunate souls.

Dark days we live in. We must try and keep that beacon of morality and truth within.

on Monday, August 3rd, Reggae W said

MTLC, I know who you were referring to. The question is if they know?

Loved your blog Findigart! Keep up the good work.

Reggae W.

on Monday, August 3rd, Reggae W said

MTLC, I know who you were referring to. The question is if they know?

I loved your blog Findigart! Keep up the good work.

Reggae W.

on Monday, August 3rd, MTLC said

Findigart, I did agree with what you wrote. I was merely referring to a different incident that crossed my mind. It didn’t really belong here. My apologizes.

on Monday, August 3rd, Andrew said

On the marketing of art, which I lecture about frequently, one example I use comes to mind in this instance. I was present at a meeting between a major NY collector, and one of the most famous art gallerists in the world. They were going to create together, an artist whom they would make famous and earn lots of money from. After talking about a number of strategies and ideas, they decided to find a gay artist with AIDS, preferably one with only a short time left to live.
The reason was simple...the death after a huge bout of publicity would leave them with a collection of works which couldn't be enlarged by further production, and no artist with whom they'd have to negotiate. They discussed hiring other artists to make sure enough work got produced to make the project worthwhile. This happened in 1982, which should give you some idea of who these people were.
I am sure the publicity machine surrounding Wiltshire was constructed by people with similar goals and a similar level of morality.

on Sunday, August 2nd, findigart said

Well could be, but I ain't that updated woth the "gold-rush news" of the contemporary art world. Was it Demian Hirst? He's really good at these kinda things...

on Sunday, August 2nd, Adrian said

i stand to correction on this...but was'nt that what the gold covered bull(no punn intended), at Southebys some months back, all about...ehehe

on Sunday, August 2nd, findigart said

Adrian, ma main man...

Good points. So it seems that the price tags on specialties are higher. Now all we need is to come up with a way to hold that paintbrush with our anus while painting Artist's Shit and publish the news at our local Sothbey's...

on Sunday, August 2nd, Adrian said

there can be a mix up between a 'special gift' and real art. 'Real art' does'nt focus on the executer of it...so that, in a sense, real art is like looking into emptiness so you get to glimpse what you are prior to putting it into words.
A 'special gift', on the other hand, as in this case, is made to look as if it belongs to someone...which of course is not true. It only serves to thiken the fog that there are some people who are special and others are not.
Almost everyone wants to be someone...I mean you get told who you are from an early age. Nothing wrong here...its just the way it is. And if your autistic, or artistic, this is verrry special.

And as a media hype, what a better platform than to continue to give concepts, like being special, recognition. So that if you, who are so special, eat this dd on toast(that is also special)you will become extra special lol...regardless of the fact that your teeth will fall out. Then you might become special gumming around.

So what I'm saying is that autistic has nothing to do with artistic...and so called uneducated in the real arts, look at the autistic artist and say wow...now thats something. And then go buy the coke a cola that was advertised during the show. And the autistic artist gets no royalties on this one....or maybe he did.

Nice blog findgart:-)))

on Sunday, August 2nd, findigart said

Hey MTLC,

Well I really couldn't understand from your comment whether you are for or against what I said. Nevertheless, I took a long look at his art gallery and no, it does not move me at all. But that's not the reason I wrote this. Many forms of art do not move me, so?

I was trying to make a point concerning the art establishment rather regarding Stephen Wiltshire himself - concerning this blind consent of anything that's a gimmick regardless of value.

As for the man at issue himself - I got really nothing against him. I have looked at photos of his, he seems like a good hearted person and basically that's all that matters to me in the end. I read things about him in his website and elsewhere, I am happy for his success and hope that he does the right thing with it.

At times compassion takes on harsh forms in order to educate. Was I compassionate when I wrote this? Truthfully, no. But was I cruel? Also, no. I was just trying to make a point.

Thanks for you comment, and I'd love to hear some more clarification of you wish.

on Saturday, August 1st, MTLC said

Findigart, well said! Thanks again for a great blog. True, it is always the end result that counts just like the demand decides the size of the price tag. But does a disorder or any other unfortunate situation give that person the license to publicly offend or spread untruths and ill will? It’s unfortunate that sensational journalism still sells. Ignorance is not a bliss and stupidity is something that we can live without. Those actions only reflect on yourself and trust me it‘s not pretty. Stephen Wiltshire, on the other hand, has a special gift that one cannot ignore. Most importantly it has helped him to reach out and communicate with his surrounding. Does his sketches move me? Does it move you? Take a look at his art gallery on the web and judge for yourself. -MTLC

on Saturday, August 1st, findigart said

Right on the money, Adrian...

on Saturday, August 1st, findigart said

Right on the money, Adrian...

on Saturday, August 1st, findigart said

Hi Berendina,

I know that the fact that he is autistic does not count, but a quick look at the fuss around that issue, the photos with Dustin Hoffman (Rain Man...) and the hype concerning his memory clearly indicates that what's art in his art is not more than a dog&pony show.

on Saturday, August 1st, Adrian said

I've also noticed that what most folk refer to as a 'good' artist is one who can represent an almost photographic imitation of some thing. So instead of real art education on the tellie, one gets to see the reflection of the general state of mind...in this case 'English' tellivision.
Tellivision might once have had a creative angle to it, but nowdays its focus is to give the couch potatoe what he wants....junkfood, eheheheh

on Friday, July 31st, berendina de ruiter said

It is the endresult that counts. If you are autistic or not does not matter.
I don't know his work, so cannot really comment on its value

on Friday, July 31st, findigart said

Hello Glass,

Indeed, people are willing to pay. And here cometh indeed that fourth element of marketing. The more you market and "gimickize" the more it will sell and shallower it will get. That's usually what happens.

on Friday, July 31st, findigart said

Hello Melanie,

Just in case this was not clear - I WAS talking about that artist in England...Stephen Wiltshire is his name, and autism is the name of the game.

on Friday, July 31st, Melanie Schuhe said

Good points. I think memory in itself is not an art. It can become art, that is this skill can be use to do art. As for autism, I´ve read for example of a real autistic artist in England who can paint the places or things after having taken a look at them, exactly how they are.

on Friday, July 31st, glass pendants said

The 4th aspect of fine art is perhaps unfortunate but real. Like any item in any market, an item's value is determined by what people are willing to pay for it. We can argue about the creation of art for art's sake, but it is unlikely that Wiltshire would have gained any recognition without people buying his "art" for ever increasing sums.

 

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