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Interesting blog! I really like your art, too, John! Art is a reflection of society, in my opinion. Of course there are always those artists whose vision is not bounded by time. However, while I think economic factors might influence art (the Ash Can School of the 1930's comes to mind) art seems to run on its own course. If the ecomony is in a shambles, artists may employ fantasy or other avenues to look for hope and thus divert attention from "bad times." Of course art sales reflect the times, but I think that collectors will always find money to buy what they love.
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economic meltdown would not be viewed with such panic which in turn feeds upon itself to appear catastrophic. Art speaks directly and this directness is an unknowable knowingness that over-rides concepts like economic melt-downs.
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Can School of the 1930's comes to mind) art seems to run on its own course. If the ecomony is in a shambles, artists may employ fantasy or other avenues to look for hope and thus divert attention from "bad times." Of course art sales reflect the times, but I think that collectors will always find money to buy what they love.
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if 'art' were to be noticed first, as I understand you are saying...then in my opinion, there most probably would not be an economic melt down...or an economic meltdown would not be viewed with such panic which in turn feeds upon itself to appear catastrophic. Art speaks directly and this directness is an unknowable knowingness that over-rides concepts like economic melt-downs.
The present economic crises has been due to over valueing. Art cannot be over-valued.
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We take Art as a necessity, but it doesn't feed or protect us. Therefore it is a good sign of the economic situation. If people have extra money art can flourish. If not, it will likely fall to the wayside.
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on Thursday, June 18th, John Powell said
Hey!Club Penguim,
I am saying art helps one to see,which is apart of the economy.It doesn't prevent anything like economical melt down...etc.Just listen to art too because it speaks as anyother element too;
on Thursday, June 18th, club penguin said
I understand you are saying then in my opinion, there most probably would not be an economic melt down...or an economic meltdown would not be viewed with such panic which in turn feeds upon itself to appear catastrophic. Art speaks directly and this directness is an unknowable knowingness that over-rides concepts like economic melt-downs.
on Sunday, June 14th, John Powell said
Hey GCSE Course work!Does Art change the way we see?Yes!A major professor in my country was speaking at an openning of a final year Art show,at "Edna Manley College of the Visual & performing Arts",in the early 90s.He said he went to see Picasso's work and thought it changed the order of thinking to the future;But then,he thought a moment that Picasso didn't do anything greater than normal;Said he thinks Picasso had not done anything unsually great,he/Picasso
is as just as good as a good Doctor or Lawyer;Picasso was said to be,one of the greatest/famous artists of 20th Century...;the "Fauves"
were of the early 20th Century,who's works are characterized chiefly by use of vivid colours in immediate juxtaposition,representational images not described by local colour;Art is never stagnant,Art moves,"Art" is "time"...;It is people who are stagnant because we are not using our senses/listenning to "Time",they rejected those artists vision(s)at that time;What drives/moves the world?The world needs thinkers and that's why Dali,& Picasso and their Art intructors were not on the same page...,hence they had left school early;But history speaks their vision(s)into proper perspective...?The same thing had happened to Von Gogh,when they said they could not see what he had seen;My external and internal assessors had reffered me to look at the "Fauves" in my final exam at Edna Manley College;Can history lie?Can Art lie?Can time lie?
on Sunday, June 14th, John Powell said
Hey Thesis help!If when you look at Art and you can't find you in it,that Art is not real;Art doesn't speak a language that one cannot relate to...;The over-riding
concepts you spoke of,like unknowable,knowingness in Art which you said overrides concepts like the economic melt-down is too general a statement to make because Art don't intervene and cancel anything in its journey to convey its direct message;It addresses life directly so,if we were listenning with all our senses there should not be any panic in any society/culture
regarding the economy;Art opens a window to help one to see;Art can't "lie" ever;
on Sunday, June 14th, John Powell said
Hey Thesis help!If when you look at Art and you can't find you in it,that Art is not real;Art doesn't speak a language that one cannot relate to...;The over-riding
concepts you spoke of,like unknowable,knowingness in Art which you said overrides concepts like the economic melt-down is too general a statement to make because Art don't intervene and cancel anything in its journey to convey its direct message;It addresses life directly so,if we were listenning with all our senses there should not be any panic in any society/culture
regarding the economy;Art opens a window to help one to see;Art can't "lie" ever;
on Saturday, June 13th, GCSE Coursework said
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on Saturday, June 13th, Thesis Help said
then in my opinion, there most probably would not be an economic melt down...or an economic meltdown would not be viewed with such panic which in turn feeds upon itself to appear catastrophic. Art speaks directly and this directness is an unknowable knowingness that over-rides concepts like economic melt-downs.
on Thursday, June 11th, John Powell said
Thanks for responding,however,I wish you had writen in English so,I could read your comment?Please re visit and respond in Engligh thank you;
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on Sunday, June 7th, John Powell said
People will buy cheaper products because they can't offord better but it doesn't mean because cheaper items are beautiful and handmake they are good;Beauty doesn't mean good...?I don't see any negative in buying direct from an artist,this attitude has being so from the birth of time and its the clients preference even when the artist has a personal/private agent outside of a gallery;I never in my Art career turned away a client or prospective clients, telling them to go to my agent;Personal service is "The""best"marketing tool;Two business models I don't see the logistics in it,you saying it don't work same time;Look at the Internet for one of the many options/example?Its a new business model...;Oprah was passing an art gallery and saw a painting from the outside said a reporter/writer for Artnews,she went home and purchased it on the Internet by her coffee table;All she did was just typed in the gallery name and the rest is history;
on Sunday, June 7th, John Powell said
JRW,Yes!What is Art?Art evokes lifes energy and (the economy)is "life" and no matter what the artist sets out to convey,a work of Art tells you what was the "political and social climate"in that time the work was being created subcontiously;The psychological impact of Art tents to be taken for granted by even some so called"educators";I don't agree of an artist or group of artists is said to be "intuitive"because he or she never received formal training,all artists are intuitive,we all use intuition;"TIME",is the source of
life and without"TIME" there
is nothing exist,hence Art and the economy;Art speaks to every economy;
on Friday, June 5th, art jewelry said
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Trezora Glass sells handmade (by us of course) glass jewelry and glass art. Our items range from inexpensive ($20) to as high as $400. It's amazing to see that people are not willing to spend money on truly unique high end art jewelry. These days they go for the cheaper items which are still beautiful and handmade. We do not normally go through intermediaries to sell and most wholesale accounts want to spend so little money on an order that it barely makes it worthwhile.
People always want a good deal especially now. Going around your dealer/rep & buying direct is a good way but could have negative ramifications. Of course, if you are retooling your marketing to address customers directly, then there is no issue but the 2 business models don't work well at the same time.
I am a director of marketing in high tech, and have been able to apply lessons learned there for our art business.
on Friday, June 5th, JRW said
Wow!!! I never really looked at art from that perspective. Art definitely does dipict life. The imagination and creativity of an artist is drawn from events or experiences in his/her life, or maybe even someone they've encountered. I, definitely, will began paying more attention to art and how it depicts the economy!!! Thanks for the insight!!!!
on Friday, June 5th, JW said
Wow!!! I never really looked at art from that perspective. Art definitely does dipict life. The imagination and creativity of an artist is drawn from events or experiences in his/her life, or maybe even someone they've encountered. I, definitely, will began paying more attention to art and how it depicts the economy!!! Thanks for the insight!!!!
on Monday, May 25th, John Powell said
Yes!I like your responce and you being an artist and collector,you have the expertise advise.You must watch out for my next article/blog
on,"HOW TO COLLECT ART-THE MOST EXPENSIVE LIVING ARTIST"!!!It was writen mainly for aspiring and young collectors especially in this economic depression and beyond;I would like to see your responce/opinion giving your expertise?Yes!no matter the product you have to sell,its what people willing to pay for it at the time;But collectors still collect even in the most depress conditions but most of them find the artists studios and with the Internet even better, to contact an artist whom they had collected,just type in GOOGLE the artist name(s)and if the artist has a personal website or even on a free site with group of other artists,you will find he or she;A collector from America found me on absolutearts.com free site before I upgraded to the pay site,he said,he just typed in my name,"JohnPowell" and saw it connect to absolutearts.com;He had bought in America,three prints of my work not from me personally but from my then agent but he did not want to go through my agent again so,he GOOGLED my name and want to purchase the originals and I shipped them to him via FedExpress;I have only being getting orders for my giclees sizes:23x24-11x17-23x16-23x14 and I just received an order from a Hotel near where I was invited by "Rotary International" as the Keynote speaker,which is where I spoke on this topic on this blog,to furnish the hotel main dining room with my prints;So,artists are selling but what?Mainly prints because its true that people are spending less ...;Do you offer your work in print?I only offer my work in print two years now due to request because I didn't yet ready and it is kicking off;Because 2008-2009,I have being shipping prints across the globe from dirrect email orders not from my website because some people don't want to pay commission,hence they contact the artist dirrect; I dirrected all my prospective clientels to my website but they said they can't afford the mark up price so,I am being asked to provide an account number and the clientels told me that once I am on absolutearts.com they trust me because they trust their website;
on Sunday, May 24th, art jewelry said
As an artist and collector, the present economic conditions have definitely impacted us. People are spending less per order and there are fewer orders and we as collectors have not bought a piece of art in almost a year.
Botton line: No matter the product/service, it is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.
on Friday, May 22nd, John Powell said
The Indian Art market I have been watching for over the past five years and it is expected to revive like any other Art market will and not stay down forever;Did you know that 9-11 disaster did not affect the art market in the US?If it did it could have a ripple effect globally...?It is said that the conviction of an artist(s) will detate the future of any art creator,hence love for art;If an artist is good,the average man will know;
on Friday, May 22nd, art.in said
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The Indian art market has again revived.
Love for art should be the motivating factor. Dedication and hard work pays in the end.
on Thursday, May 21st, John Powell said
Hey Pedro Ramon,
I don't understand your responce but I recognized you said no money to buy painting at the moment?I am not using my computer at the moment to respond,it is my blackberry I am now on,however,I will get my computer to use a Online translator to interpret what you were saying;I thank you for your responce and you are welcome continue;
on Thursday, May 21st, Pedro Ramon said
THE SOLUTIONS ACROOS OF SELF is payament in quotes of mosttly,beacouse nobady have money to pay the paintings at the moment, FOR this the simplification of pay forms is the unique solutions to sell a painting,I do'nt speak a English very well sorry for my expression if your don't understuud but I cant sey you in Spanihs and you can translate in your lenguage with a free traductors program in the internet:
"LO QUE HAY QUE HACER ES darle facilidades alos compradores para que paguen los cuadros a plazos"
on Tuesday, May 19th, John Powell said
KFAB,"Space" means many things to many people.In the language of Art,space can be discribe empty or full/occupied,huge or small;Space is an element of Art.This same principle is being maintained in hanging pictures;When you are hanging any pictures be it large or small,look at the space you have,large images you can't see in a small space eg.an external assessor remarked when he was assessing a final year art show,that he could't see the student work because of the small space;Spacial awareness or environment,visual impact,eye level,harmony interms colour scheme...,Atmospher,balance,emphasis,movements, rhythm,subject matter,technique,expression,symbol,concept,content or image,detail,style,comtemporary,classical,composition,design,theme;Look at new answers to old questions interms of concept;If you have a theme,then hang the pictures in series thematically.Proportion,you don't have to hang all small,mixed them with large as long as you have a common threat running through to the end of a theme;Remember these,elements of design,principles of design; If your design or composition is too busy,simplify areas to offset the business;Put all pictures lean up on the wall before hanging them,look and there you correct all if not most of the mistakes before hanging;
on Tuesday, May 19th, KFAB said
I AM DOING RESEARCH ON A POTENTIAL PRODUCT. I WOULD LIKE ANY COMMENTS OF THE FOLLOWING:
1. WHAT IS THE MOST DIFFICULT PART OF HANGING PICTURES, PARTICULARLY LARGE ONES?
2. WHAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER?
THANKS FOR ALL COMMENTS!
on Sunday, May 17th, John Powell said
Adrian,Sure!that is so and I wanted to make that distinction as which group of people will just go and by any Art randomly;It has to be a certain group of people with that culture who goes about buying Art randomly,which is an attitute for centuries which is Ok! Because there will always be that culture, within a culture;I believe its a personality thing which has to do with taste...;Which varies/unique as individuals do,to collect Art is a spiritual thing as the creation of Art itself;It is like as you have different artists with different depth,as buyers of Art are different from serious collectors of Art; Collecting Art is like journeying through the mind of the artist in the creating process which is inexplainable;A serious collector touches the spiritual realm of God because it cannot be explained,like an artist cannot explain in its entirety his creating process;Just listen and observe a collector's attitude
When next you are around one.
on Sunday, May 17th, Adrian said
...this could be the difference between a collector and a random buyer...
on Sunday, May 17th, John Powell said
Thank you for your comment;
You said people in a recession buys Art,good bad and indifferent?But which kind of people
are those?A serious collector who wants to look down the road on an artist or artists say 25 years after a purchase, would not just buy Art without not finding out the artist history,even if the Economy is good...You have varied types of Art buyers and certainly I would not buy Art like those people, even if I am buying for pleasuré and there is pleasure and there is pleasure... Miss Oprah,saw a painting in a gallery and turned up armed with an Art historian a day or few days later before she made the purchase,the Artnews writer said.The historian looked at the artist name on the painting and recognized it, asked for the RESUME and just glance at it and said,they have being following the artist since graduating from Art school and is an artist to watch. The historian said to miss Oprah,yes!You might say,whats in a name?But there is something in a name.Would you walk away from a Picasso when he was a young man?I am still asking the question,who are those people you are talking of,you might know them because I can see you signed your name,gallery sales?I would buy an artist work just to encourage the artist but not until I see where it merits it before I make another purchase.
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on Thursday, May 14th, cassanova said
Hey john,
Good points. I always wondered what art had to do with the economy. I only thought of it as if you have money you buy a piece of art and if you do not have any money you leave it until you can afford it. really helpful and insightful. Hope ypur next piece is just as interesting.
on Thursday, May 14th, John Powell said
Barney, Wish to thank you for your comment on my blog and choose to write about me in your post/article issue;I want to tell you that my next blog will be on "HOW TO COLLECT ART".Sure, I agree with what you had said in your comment.Yes! the Impressionists and also the Fauves had paved the way to futurism,which made an impact on the art world in that, they had to be mentioned in "Art History",even though the Fauves short lived physically but their influence exist.The Impressionists influence I would say lives the longest todate why,it is most borrowed style/concept today.
on Wednesday, May 13th, Barney Davey said
John,
You make an eloquent and erudite point about art and its importance on many levels. Art teaches us, it provokes us, it touches emotions and expresses them visually when words fail us.
I don't have a timeline on art and the economy through the ages. But, I sense your instincts and perceptions regarding it are valid; perhaps now more than ever. Whatever the case, I agree art is a leading factor and those who know how to interpret what it is saying stand to benefit from it.
In their day, the Impressionists were reviled for breaking tradition of realistic and allegorical paintings. Their work foretold the huge changes about to unravel in the early 20th Century. Their loose interpretation was a maverick style unacceptable to the art cognoscenti of the day. But, it was a response to the coming machine age of mass-made products and marvelous inventions that transformed daily lives.
The Impressionists' lives and work straddled the period of horse and buggy to the introduction of motor cars, electricity in homes and assembly lines. I think it was a revolt against the past hidebound way of creating art and it was a statement against the uniformity that machines and mass production brought on.
I'm neither steeped nor astute enough on the world art scene to dissemble what artists are attempting to tell us today. My guess it would be that as world citizens we need more than ever to find ways to live in harmony with each other and with our environment. Certainly, your country's most famous artist, Bob Marley, was an early adopter of such a philosophy. And, what a profound effect his work has made around the globe.
Thanks for writing such an insightful and thought provoking article!
on Wednesday, May 13th, Barney Davey said
John,
You make an eloquent and erudite point about art and its importance on many levels. Art teaches us, it provokes us, it touches emotions and expresses them visually when words fail us.
I don't have a timeline on art and the economy through the ages. But, I sense your instincts and perceptions regarding it are valid, perhaps now more than ever. Whatever the case, I agree art is a leading factor and those who know how to interpret what it is saying stand to benefit from it.
In their day, the Impressionists were reviled for breaking tradition of realistic and allegorical paintings. Their work foretold the huge changes about to unravel in the early 20th Century. Their loose interpretation was a maverick style unacceptable to the art cognoscenti of the day. But, it was a response to the coming machine age of mass made products and marvelous inventions that transformed daily lives.
The Impressionists' lives and work straddled the period of horse and buggy to the introduction of motor cars, electricity in homes and assembly lines. I think it was a revolt against the past hidebound way of creating art and it was a statement against the uniformity that machines and mass production brought on.
I'm neither steeped nor astute enough on the world art scene to dissemble what artists are attempting to tell us today. My guess it would be that as world citizens we need more than ever to find ways to live in harmony with each other and with our environment. Certainly, your country's most famous artist, Bob Marley, was an early adopter of such a philosophy. And, what a profound effect his work has made around the globe.
Thanks for writing such an insightful and thought provoking article!
on Monday, May 11th, John Powell said
Suer! extremely/profoundly stimulating thought on collecting art;
Sure! I agree and museums said to collect the never seen...;"God" was and still is the first artist/creator which all inspiration comes from.
on Monday, May 11th, Adrian said
eheheh...everyone dies poor. Like the song "you cant go to heaven in a motor-car, because a motor-car dont get that far". Yeh, some folk do seem to be artists from day one. Sometimes it looks like a curse and sometimes a blessing. Depends if you get all caught up in the idea of it...then it can turn on you.
I recently saw an exhibit in Volterra...and what spoke in the work had nothing to do with the colour, style, subject matter...what spoke was the recognition, the oneness with the moment that the artist is with her work. This is what collectors are collecting. When you collect art, you are touching God. Might sound extreme...but its a fact.
on Saturday, May 9th, John Powell said
Sure!Andrian,art keeps the "economy" going because art reflects life and the "economy" is life's reflection...;A true artist can't stop creating so,anyone who was creating art and stop,saying art couldn't pay the bills, was not called;I know artists who go find ways to pay the bills by teaching art privately and publicly;Picasso,use to sell sketches in the streets of Paris to keep afloat because he was bent on creating art because he was true;Art is being recognized now more than when Picasso was a young boy and he made it work for him;Van Gogh,was the opposite, he did not make it "money wise"and even when he saw nor heared nothing interms of the "feel or smell" of "FAME" he creates still because he didn't create thinking about
Money even though his brother "Theo" who was living in Paris at the time, had to be sending him materials and money;Sure!an artist should be able to live off their art but there is no garantee;It is said that,Art,is an "uncertain profession" and I add, "that's why God didn't call some of us to this profession"...;People would say to me,how do you do it because most artist died poor?I said,I was chosen by "God",I didn't choose Art,I was born to create/make Art;
on Friday, May 8th, Adrian said
yep...and if all else fails, just be the collector of your own work. Get some other means of support...but never stop creating. I've met ex-artists who gave up on art because it did'nt pay the bills. Things can get tough out here, but one must keep the fire burning. Art for sure keeps an economy going.
on Friday, May 8th, John Powell said
Sure!the interior decorating industry will get a hit like any other business;Art is an
Investment and so,collectors
Will collect art in any climate but the artist has to warrant it;
on Friday, May 8th, John Powell said
Sure!Adrian,it takes various things for a collector to buy an artist work and all that you mentioned are contributing factors to an artist luck;But an artist got to do
What he has to do,"create" for
"Create" sake and leave the rest;
on Friday, May 8th, Knikkolette said
Being an interior designer - the economy has it that part of my business - but my art sales have gone up... I think it depends on your market.
on Friday, May 8th, Adrian said
John, I guess that if one has been to school its a good starting point to get to know whos who in the bussiness, and then to stay within reach of or in community with the art world.
Maybe through exposure of the artists work, the collectors get to recognise them. Sometimes it does matter 'who' you know and other times it can look as though its by sheer chance that a collector notices you....But you still gotta do what you gotta do:-)
on Thursday, May 7th, John Powell said
While that may be so but I wouldn't pay for art because someone is will to pay ex for it;I would rather say,people buys art for varing reasons...;That may be too a sweeping statement...?
on Thursday, May 7th, Canvas Paintings said
People will pay for art depending on what they think other people are willing to pay for it.
on Thursday, May 7th, John Powell said
Sure!Adrian,on those collectors who may collect degrees but with no proof of sustained conviction of an artist;Yes!a collector can or may collect a young artist work after graduation,however,for encouragement like a one or two pieces...but one has to look at if its a wise economical venture to purchase a whole series by a young artist,before allowing growth/history to be the determining proof...;My next blog will address two schools on collecting art;Some collect for the(WOW) thing,while others collect by the artist reputation on not how but what the artist paints etc...;Look at Jacob Lawrence,he was being introduced by an art connoisseur to another art connoisseur, who was a museum
curator then and the rest is history;Look at his subjust matter and how he handles it and he was being introduced young so,you can spot an honest and good artist to put your money on;This is true economics reinvestment;
on Thursday, May 7th, Adrian said
...yes , thats interesting, John....these things can take some time. As for young artists...some clowns can come right out of a course and get collectors all stirred up on their work. Sometimes I wonder if 'collectors' aren't just collecting university degrees with names. All the same, if the fashion is 'expression with the most original media', then it helps to have the gift-of-the-gab so that ones art can get a high price.
on Wednesday, May 6th, John Powell said
OK! Marketing is a factor,for sure, especially in this global market and with the internet,which helps to realize sales...;So,the (HOW)factor is of importance;I have came across collectors who just want to see my (RESUME),which also is another determining factor of a possible sale realized. One collector took SEVEN #7 YEARS before he purchased my work,which is the exact thing my farmer Professors had told me would happen. Because some collectors don't buy young artists work. I know one has to pay their dues,hence that collector's purchased my work.He woke me up early one sunday morning and asked me a number of questions and game me investment advise.I received a call from the National Gallery years ago,saying a collector called asking about me/work before purchasing it and this collector is different from the one i mentioned before.My next (BLOG) is on (HOW TO COLLECT ART) which is on the way almost finish;
on Wednesday, May 6th, Adrian said
Yeh...but it might be that the way in which the art is marketed be the determing factor of the sale of it...which means that the buyer's willingness is decided by the seller.
There was a time when I was employed by the advertising and this was where I got to see how the media can determine the buyers willingness to buy. Its completely impersonal. It is possible to sell art to people even if they don't want it. The approach of selling art...is an art itself :-)
on Wednesday, May 6th, John Powell said
Adrian,I think you are collect but i was just asking a question in a sense,referring to Andrew's reply that "The GOLDEN RULE is the value of anything is what people willing to pay for anything...;I have done the same thing too,like you,where i put my price and realized it;
on Wednesday, May 6th, Adrian said
I would disagree that it is the people/market that sets the value of art. In my own experience, I have sold my art successfully for the price I have valued it at and not the price that the market has valued it at.
Basically it would be the seller who sets the value of art...whoever that may be.
on Tuesday, May 5th, John Powell said
Ok! Andrea, that realistic,hence people/market dictates the price of a work and not what one thinks! Interesting food for thought;
John
on Tuesday, May 5th, Andrew said
The golden rule; the value of anything is what people are willing to pay for it.
on Monday, May 4th, John Powell said
Hey Ann,
Thank you much for your valued comment and hope to hear from you in my future blogs coming up next at this venue;John
on Monday, May 4th, Ann Tracy said
Nice post John!
on Sunday, May 3rd, John Powell said
Andrew,thanks for such insightful infos and sure, there is no law that is being set up to prevent the manipulation of a collection;I recalled when I was in art school my art history tutor had said that, those who are an authority on Art had said,that Art was selling for too much money and
That they were going to put something inplace to prevent
/regulate it;Can this be done, a law to say a work of Art shouldn't be sold for ex amount?The "Mona Lisa" is said to be priceless and to what I know,it is history that determines the price of works of Art...?The present Art market has to take in consideration,the history of
Art in any given country to help in a proper Art valuation;Art catalogues can help to show this,who sold for what,when/period;
John Powell
on Sunday, May 3rd, Andrew said
The SEC is the Securities and Exchange commission whose job among others is to prevent brokerage houses and traders from manipulating the value of stocks.
The value of a collection of art can be manipulated more easily than that of stocks because for one, there's no law against it. When Charles Saatchi exhibited his collection at the Brooklyn Museum, he inflated the value of each of the artists in it by through the scandal surrounding the event because of just one piece. The auction process involves the documentation of prices for future use in assessing value. Therefore, if someone owns numerous works by a certain artist, all they have to do is buy more single works for a high price at auction, and 'bingo', all their pieces go up in value.
on Saturday, May 2nd, John Powell said
Andrew,those pros are smart in investing in Art,given the uncertainsy in the stock market;What is the abreviation SEC mean?They can't manipulate the value of their collection so easily,if at all because how would they do it?I like your
response,it provokes dialogue; John
on Saturday, May 2nd, John Powell said
Those pros,Charles Schwab,Ernie
Schwab Schwab
on Friday, May 1st, Andrew said
Stock market pros are very in touch with the arts. Charles Schwab, Ernie Olde, and Richard McKenzie are all very avid art collectors, perhaps looking for something that fills a void in their otherwise fruitful careers. And without an SEC of Art to regulate things, it's a wonder none of them try to manipulate the value of what's in their collections. Perhaps they're saying, 'this is real, and we hold it in high esteem.' One would hope that's the case.
on Friday, May 1st, John Powell said
Ingrid,thank you much for your wonderful comment on my view on Art as it relates to the economy;
John Powell/Webist
on Thursday, April 30th, Ingrid Kamerbeek said
This is a most interesting and unusual approach to art and economy my dear friend and VIP WEBISM group member, John!!!!
WEBISM - art connecting the world
on Tuesday, April 28th, John Powell said
Ok! Ellen,good to know you feel my passion;Sure! artists wonder off into the unknown, yet maintained their spirit... of creativity.
on Tuesday, April 28th, Ellen said
I did not mean to exclude reality, John. I only meant that when times are bad, artists may allow their imaginations to go to another and or better place so that they can create. Reality is extremely valuable for art and I subscribe to it wholeheartedly. I admire your passion!
on Monday, April 27th, John Powell said
Thanks Ellen and for liking my Art;I rather to look for hope in reality than fantasy;Agree,artists may employ fantasy and I also agree,that,Art takes its own form or course for Art sake but deep down in the subconscious,reality speaks the language of life;Sure!I believe that serious Art collectors will find money to invest in "good Art"because I have seen it here in Jamaica;John
on Monday, April 27th, John Powell said
Sure!Christ,there will be a ripple effect of the formal economy,which trickles down to the wider economy and will speak valume for the future economy,near or far;
on Monday, April 27th, John Powell said
No!I am not saying Art must be noticed first,however,Art reflects or mirrows what goes on in any society/life, hence,Art is intertwined and not divorce from any economy,they co-exist and it doesn't matter how Art speaks/directly etc...; John
on Monday, April 27th, chris said
Interesting view point John. Part of the challenge is that the Art Industry will most times lag the formal economy so its slowdown and rise is more pronounce after more significant changes takes place in the wider economy. Interesting info on the way the internet is shaping the industry, hope the local artist can maximise this opportunity.
on Monday, April 27th, Ellen said
Interesting blog! I really like your art, too, John! Art is a reflection of society, in my opinion. Of course there are always those artists whose vision is not bounded by time. However, while I think economic factors might influence art (the Ash Can School of the 1930's comes to mind) art seems to run on its own course. If the ecomony is in a shambles, artists may employ fantasy or other avenues to look for hope and thus divert attention from "bad times." Of course art sales reflect the times, but I think that collectors will always find money to buy what they love.
on Monday, April 27th, Adrian said
if 'art' were to be noticed first, as I understand you are saying...then in my opinion, there most probably would not be an economic melt down...or an economic meltdown would not be viewed with such panic which in turn feeds upon itself to appear catastrophic. Art speaks directly and this directness is an unknowable knowingness that over-rides concepts like economic melt-downs.
The present economic crises has been due to over valueing. Art cannot be over-valued.
