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on Wednesday, June 14th, olivier said
Why backgammon? Is it more lucrative than painting?
on Wednesday, June 14th, Mendy said
This is all very well, I am sure many of us are. However, this particular place you visit and decide to post your comments to – dare I say, anonymously [and I’ll dare again, not for the first time] – is a place where I try to extract some meaning and guidance from like minded people who find themselves in identical situations, and do so through dialogue and the sharing of experiences and ideas as Olivier has suggested we do.
on Sunday, June 4th, Olivier said
Funny we start we the price of our work, end up with the price of our hate. That's give me more energie. I do not think pricing our work is a healphy excercise. I spend most of my time in my studio, painting by pleasure/passion. If I do not have personaly the financial pressure today, I'm still dreaming of the better world as everyone would do, standing alone on his island like I am.
But you catch me here. Is there any other new comer ? We can make a lots of critiscism of the world, pricing is still of our concern. Despite all the ideal we are seeking for.
What make creativity? What make one of us going out of the box?... to go to another box, like my pin up by the way. What make us feeling so different as the common 9 to 5 citisen. Is it because we are 8 to feeling? You know many in the offices complain but some are happy... are sucessful.
Forget consignement or not consignement. We will all act in what we judge better for our own. Forget our difference of culture, ideal we all lookink for the same goal. By the way Jose I do really have your country in a high profile of admiration. Get right to the point like creativity, what make you so sure your are talented? Is the talent reallt the key? I still wonder but I have a lot to talk about it and the 200 target comments will be reach in no time. From there get to the thousand, then much more, make it big, before we celebrate the death of it.
Grandiose! Celebrate the artist before we kill him. But please stay youtself, it's so good for my ego
on Sunday, June 4th, olivier said
Whouaaou. I jus get back, and a lot of reading...I agree with my friends, for the other let's count to five...it's 8.08pm and we all havee a drink together. It's fun here, and my friends are sleeping now.
After I'll go to reading, but it's nice to have strong opinion. At 67 now it must be Paul who's happy?
on Saturday, June 3rd, U said
Blog topic:
Origins of inspiration.
Having been poked in the chest by a giant finger and appointed an artist rather than choosing, does not render a life of slavery but of affirmation.
As for labels and slander, one might look at the writings of Sigmund Freud who stated that one speaks from themself. Meaning, what you say is what you are. Such can easily be reduced to childish banter.
...not what inspires you...but what is the nature of it? ... why does it inspire you? The force of inspiration...can inspiration itself be rendered? Depicted? ...is it energy? ....is it mind responding only to matter? ...can one actually be a puppet to another or higher force who cranks out endlessly the docturns of that source? That's not inspiration, that's brainwashing. I am not brainwashed. I may have not had choice to become, but I surely have choice of what I produce.
This world is so exciting, so much to learn, so much that can be made.... such a challenging world! Being an artist (visual) can be the greatest of all challenges... no... it is.
If there were no pain, would we appreciate joy? Without hate, would there be love? Would we as artists love the smell of our paint? Would we produce if the fear of not being able to produce did not exist?
on Saturday, June 3rd, walt said
Paul, I think the number of responses have broken an absolutesarts.com record. And I think you have your next few blogs laid out for you here.
on Saturday, June 3rd, Ed Baron said
I think artists ought to join Wordscanheal.org whose mission is to say nice words to someone everyday and that if we each do so we can create world peace with our words.
create a link on your web sites and build a better world.
A lot of celebrites belong to this. Who knows, they might have something nice to say to artists.
on Saturday, June 3rd, jose said
Paul, by no means! Portugal is hard at work at being on par with the whole of the global village: as tough a cookie to swallow as any other. Selfishness, wilful ignorance, hypocrisy are fed daily by the media and the politicians the majority elected to power in its collective slumber. This would be interesting material for a blog if Portugal were of interest to anybody beyond its borders – which we delude ourselves into believing. Oh no, my ideas and my posture go against the national trend, and by the quizzical looks I sometimes detect when I blurt something similar to this out in the open I often wonder whether I’ve still got all my marbles in the right place.
Once again, a great blog - although somewhere down the line it became uh...roger's! I look forward to the next one.
Cheers.
on Saturday, June 3rd, elaniii@yahoo.com">andrew said
UR, uh, you judged me again, and were just as wrong as the first time. Hate? What fruit tree did you pick that one off? I called you ignorant because you claimed to know things that I know are false. Oxford's... Ignorant; lacking knowledge, uninformed; uncouth through lack of knowledge. What adjective would you have used to describe a person who speaks knowingly of things they do not know, and seems to sneer self importantly while doing so? It was the best word I could think of for the occasion.
I agree with Jose, we do often feel the same way about a lot of things, but I didn't want to be redundant, or make you feel like there was double teaming going on. The things you claim to know are false, that's all. I worked alone, starved, the works, and I used the time as best I could. Two years ago, I got married and had a kid. It has made me more efficient. I no longer cook, clean, or wash, or shop, and although I also have some new stuff to do that I didn't have before, I can spend about the same amount of time working on art as before. My artistic vocabulary has increased due to the new experiences, giving me a wider range. I'm producing more now, and I believe it's of higher quality. Conceptual work like mine needs experience as fuel.
on Saturday, June 3rd, Paul Dorrell said
Jose,
I'm glad to see this discussion taking a more compassionate turn. The world doesn't advance without that. Anger and cynicism are easy; understanding and compassion are hard.
I understand cynicism, the world history that gives rise to it, the acts of human folly that can support it, and the personal experiences that can bitterly deepen it. I understand that as much as I understand, and detest, sentimental optimism. I have little respect for either, since I feel the former is the easy way out, and the latter a stamp of ignorance.
Anyone can be a bitter cynic, anyone naively optimistic. I've always believed it's much harder to rise above either tendency, and maintain a balanced view of life, especially as one grows experienced in the world, learning firsthand of betrayal, tragedy, and failure. You seem to have mastered this balance very well. Is that a common way of life in Portugal?
on Saturday, June 3rd, josé freitas cruz said
Uh…roger, you may indeed be blessed, there is no way by which we can judge this, but your comments belie you. Your bitterness towards others tells me otherwise.
You say you had no choice. No one has a choice. Choice must be conquered.
Most things happen in our life, very few come about because we will them to. You seem to be admitting that art happened to you – it is something accidental over which you can exert no power whatsoever. No choice, you say. I had hoped that you would at least own up to it being something you desired and worked hard towards making a part of you against the tremendous odds of accident that constantly steer us astray from the path of Doing.
Ultimately our degree of Doing varies greatly and we are all mostly submitted to accident. To my mind an artist stands out from the mob because he is more acutely aware of the need to escape accident and aspires to Doing: he is not merely the slave of creation, a vehicle through which it happens, but he aspires to Be CREATOR – to Do, to limit Accident as much as possible or at least be aware of how and where it is guiding him. Above all the artist is aware of the forces that keep him in slumber and strives to remain awake.
You cannot be Awake if you are under the mechanical power of a finger that points you its direction and keeps you believing you owe it allegiance. As long as this is the case you will only be a means for things to ‘happen’, there is really very little you can claim to ‘Do’.
To avoid life because of the many diversions it can throw in your path seems to me to be a futile exercise, unless, of course, the ambition is to remain asleep and unknowing of the things you could DO if you learnt to master them.
on Saturday, June 3rd, u R said
Andrew, what makes you hate so?
on Saturday, June 3rd, u u roger said
Obviously I am uncomfortable with the success and fame that is before me. I am sorry if we are not all blessed or appointed. I am sorry if we all do not have tons of time for our art. I am sorry that not everyone in this world is an artist. If so, just imagine!
I'm sorry I came back to this. I am sorry I yelled. I am sorry I am alone in utter dedication. I am sorry that some are better than others. I am sorry that..... for a long time I was sorry for being blessed!
on Saturday, June 3rd, elaniii@yahoo.com">andrew said
The ignorant are always blessed, for they cannot see their own folly.
on Saturday, June 3rd, uh..roger said
btw jose, I am blessed. By no means have I gotton a "rotten deal".
on Saturday, June 3rd, uh...roger said
Choice? I had choice? I had choice to become an artist? That is pure utter fiction! I never had a choice!
A big ol' finger came out of the sky when I was a teenager. I had been making strange things since my toddler days. Then as a teengager, when many choose their paths in life, mine was chosen for me. This big ol' finger poked me in the chest and said, "you are a creator". That moment in time is when I was appointed an artist.
One does not have to toil to make art. Perhaps we all forget the Conceptual Movement. One can make art in their minds and then realize the material later. This allows the better work to be made.
Many get angry, for they lack the time and discipline for good art.The more time one can devote to their art the better they will be. This formula applies to sports, business, the arts, etc. If it's a hobby for you, then quit calling yourselves artists!
on Saturday, June 3rd, josé freitas cruz said
We’re here again, at the very same point. Uh… roger in a new anonymous reincarnation lives on in his belief that he has us all by the balls, substantiating his claim to true dedication with puerile arguments he has definite trouble shaking himself away from. It is called recurrence and uh… roger seems to have taken a fancy for the lullaby and enjoys the slumber rather than engaging LIFE and stepping out of the rut.
I have reason to seriously doubt uh… roger’s utter commitment to his art. Basically, it boils down to his insistence on time: the time to practice as he puts it; practice makes perfect he says. What I can deduce is that uh… roger spends enormous amounts of time in his studio… while LIFE passes him by.
Out of 24 hours, how many of those would you judge necessary to practice? How many to allow for inspiration to flow? How many to dedicate to LIFE and allow its influences to feed inspiration - how many to sleep, to enjoy a meal with friends and family, to take a good crap, to take care of your mental and physical health [how they all take time away!] and be in a position to enter through the studio door and be truly productive?
Let us imagine our uh… roger is an employed super-man. He has all the power but no one is calling to him for help and thus he has all the time in the world to dedicate his super-powers to his art. Let us say he allocates 8 hours to sleep [we know nothing of our anonymous hero’s work ethic besides the childish attacks he lashes out at those who speak about theirs]. This leaves him 16 hours which he believes, and claims, to go through awake, and dedicates exclusively to his art. Allow the time to go munch on some kryptonite and rid himself of the waste and I would guess he gets in a 14 hour work day. Now this is truly admirable! To be able to maintain a state of alertness for so long, seven days a week, is a hell of a feat.
I won’t ask why we haven’t seen or heard of his art, that would be cruel. But judging by his arguments and by the regret and bitterness that pours out of them I must doubt that he is able to be AWAKE 14 hours a day. Why? Because it is plain to see that the regret and bitterness of having decided to part with certain aspects of life eats away at those 14 hours, well beyond the time spent belittling his fellow artists on this site.
The energy and the method required to subdue the inner chatter is not easily generated/mastered by the common man. I will be kind and say that uh… roger manages not to be consumed by his inner turmoil, 8 hours of the day. Now, here again, that would be a hell of a feat! What I suspect is that, in actual truth, uh… roger spends just as much time truly WORKING on his art as you and I.
It would seem, then, that we all, inevitably, waste some time. Whereas you and I ‘waste’ our time on the life we have chosen and come away feeling rewarded to the point where this feeds our art and helps us maximise the time we get to spend at the studio, uh… roger clearly spends his time on the life he has chosen and feels he’s got a rotten deal in return.
Who is to blame? Certainly not you and me. Definitely not Art!
on Saturday, June 3rd, Kumiko said
gs,
A little advice... In the case you don’t want to read the entire paragraph, but you want to know what is about, read the topic sentence and conclusion, it will give you the main idea of the essay.
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on Friday, June 2nd, Kumiko said
Hi Olivier,
The posting you wrote for gs (June 1st), that is very interesting. I can understand it even though the spelling was reordered the wrong way. I am a Japanese and I have spent for long time learning English and I'm always afraid of misspellinsg, so I spend extra time for correcting spelling as well as grammar for any written letters, emails, essays, and papers in English. One of the reasons is that I'm always afraid that people may not be able to read if the spelling is incorrect…but you are proof that I am wrong. As you said, the human mind does not read every letter by itself, but the word/phrase as a whole.
Thank you!
on Friday, June 2nd, uh...roger that said
andrew, you wish you had the dedication!
Practice makes perfect. The more art you make and the more time you have to make it, the better you become.
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.nah na nah na nah!
wives kids homes whatever...take time
time away from your art
feel the pain yet?
ever go hungry to buy supplies?
Call it trite my man
for you wish you had the dedication
on Friday, June 2nd, olivier said
You're right elanii, some people like the idea of sacrifice, it's an easy way to escape the real problem. Vincent cut his ear after a fight with Gaughin in Saint Remy De Provences...they were booth drunk. Next day he was so p. off AIEE. Anyway me I don't know I have the wife the kids the house the cottage now I decide to do what I like...paintings. Next step... is full of ambition. that's why i am talking to you, having a good time and learning more
on Friday, June 2nd, elanii@yahoo.com">andrew said
uh rodger, you haven't had kids because you didn't want them, not because you sacrificed them for your art. You sacrificed a wife for your art? Not really. She probably sacrificed you because you were such a whiner. Your home ownership? Uh, could someone bring this guy some coffee? You're living a Hollywood role that was created to make films make money, and is as cliched as a cop eating donuts. Giving up on living has nothing to do with producing good work. You think Van Gogh sacrificed his ear so he could make paintings? Or was he, unlike you, already pretty good before he cut it off?
on Thursday, June 1st, Olivier said
gs that's for you:
Can you raed tihs? I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!
on Thursday, June 1st, Matt said
gs:
Why not give it break with the paragraph thing you keep complaining about.
Here's some advice:
Don't read paragraphs that exceed your sentence limit! How rude can you be?
Matt
on Thursday, June 1st, uh... roger that said
I haven't been able to have kids cause I sacrificed everything for my art.
I haven't been able to have a wife cause I sacrificed everything for my art.
I haven't been able to own a home because I sacrificed everything for my art.
My time has come!
You call your self an artist. Does that mean we are equal?
expletive, NO!
shove it and have fun rorlor bladeing
on Thursday, June 1st, olivier said
wear an helmet, the topic will be hot for sure
on Thursday, June 1st, Paul Dorrell said
Well after all these posts, I have to say I'm humbled and moved by the amount of discourse my column inspired. Baby this is healthy, and this is good. I may well get into consignment with the next column, or something similar; that will be posted on the 9th. In the meantime, my best to all of you. For now, I'm off to Rollerblade with my sons, have a drink with my wife, and dig on the start of summer.
PD
on Thursday, June 1st, olivier said
Pollack, Pollock, Pollnareff un jour je vais tous les enfermer dans un totem pin up
on Thursday, June 1st, olivier said
Pollock will mark history in my view, he had the talent to shake the art community. And I really beleive this need to be done from time to time in every level of the society. He on est pas des moutons!
I agre Paul is a good writter, is this blog reserve only to talented. Since on my side at the middle of my life I still wonder what is talent. But one thing is sure. I am not and will never be a talented writter. i remember a fiew love affairs who likes my writting but this doen't count??
No for the paragraph section, yes I agree. New on blog I fully realize my mistake. That's the way to go.
What about pricing? Yes I think a negociation is the best way. Not every artist, every gallery has the same level of service/quality, or just location. $10000 in Zimbawe is a lot of money. And I'd love to have a painting there. even for a $3.25 starbuck coffee. But if your are the king of the world or just want to be, I beleive you can dictact your condition. If you are not agressive you may have a point.
on Thursday, June 1st, gabriella said
Show them anything at all, and "they" will buy. But in the end, quality shakes out of the sieve that is called "time".
on Thursday, June 1st, walt said
Olivier,
Talent and $2.75 will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. But it has to be there in any of its various forms as a starting place. Vlaminck was an ameteur who is slowly being forgotten. His only real claim to fame was being in with the in croud at the right moment. Yes, he made a few nice paintings. One or two I really like. But no more.
Van Gogh on the other hand was great and worth taking time to study as are a number of other painters from that general time period when art was changing its point of view. Matisse, Picasso, Braque, Leger and later in America Hans Hoffman, de Kooning, David Smith, Gorky...and maybe Pollack, although I have my doubts in the long run about his work-- whether it is anything more than an historical marker. So many other painters where doing something similar before he did what he did. Clement Greenburg made him famous (and maybe the CIA.)
Consignments are the norm. Doubt that we can do away with it. At one time dealers actually bought the work of their artists. They took the same risk the artist took. The current model is quite lopsided. I'm ok with consignment as long as the gallery doesn't expect the same percentage as one who takes the greater risk, puts up a solo show, spends money on advertising, actually has a serious list of collectors cultivated over years, a track record of superior sales etc. They are worth their 50-70%. (My gallery in Cordoba Argentina does a very good job of taking care of her Latin American artists by bringing their work to the States for big shows like SOFA and others every year at her own expense.) Especially if they can actually get prices up quickly.
Mostly this happens only in major art centers like New York, London, Berlin, Tokyo, possibly Rome, Buenos Aires and a few other major cities. (Curiously I'm hearing that Chinese artists are selling like crazy in the most unlikely places these days...Mainland China. So much for our capitalist superiority.)
Consignment galleries who take a few pieces should only ask %25-%30 and no more unless they are willing to bare an equal amount of risk as the artist. An artist, as we know, also has overhead, materials, rent etc. as well as inventory to support. Bars and restaurants who show art shouldn't take any percentage since they are getting free decor and art as entertainment. Singers and comedians get paid for the same thing.
on Thursday, June 1st, jose freitas cruz said
Forgive the harsh tone back there, I agree with you on that gs, it would be good to pick Paul's brains on the matter of consignment. Actually I think there’s a whole lot of aspects we can look forward to hearing Paul’s opinion on in the blogs to come.
We can only bring about shifts in mentality and behaviour in our line of work [from both sides – artists and gallery owners], and more efficient and equitable means of cooperating if we start listening to one another and learning to get a different mental picture of what it is each one of us does.
on Thursday, June 1st, Jon laughgrin said
What is presented to the eye is often Barnum and Baileys famous quote. "There is a sucker born every minute".
Who cares. No one has the guts or knowledge to call out bad art these days.
be happy
buy buy buy
buy buy buy
bye
on Thursday, June 1st, Dave said
But art is in the eye of the beholder. There is no bad art.
on Thursday, June 1st, Al said
Does consignment propagate bad art?
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.........YES.......
on Thursday, June 1st, gs said
Paul, being the good writer you are, I do hope your next blog focuses on this evil thing called consignment! Your writing is enjoyable so even a biased account should be entertaining!
Does the proliferation of bad art help, or hurt, the artist, and the market? oops another topic
on Thursday, June 1st, gs said
Very well written Jose. I understand the language differences here on an international website. I want to read everyone's writings, it's just that long paragraphs chase me off before I even get close to them. The English language requires 3 - 5, and up to 10 sentences to deliver good reading comprehension.
An excellant example of good writing is Paul Dorrell, the author of this blog. Look at his sentence structure and the length of his paragraphs. He has good voice in his writing and states his message well with as few of sentences as needed.
We all have messages to convey. English is used on this site. My mother was an English teacher before she became an actress who did from breast cancer. I'm just trying to help, granted, I wasn't nice about it.
Thank you Paul, for the discourse.
on Thursday, June 1st, jfx said
Olivier, comme tu as raison: le succès risque d’oblitérer le talent ! L’opinion ci-dessous ne représente pas la majorité de ce forum et ne peut avoir qu’un poids : nul, pour ne pas dire nullité. Que savons nous sur l’auteur du commentaire ? À peine qu’il n’ose l’exprimer que dans l’anonymat ! Tu n’est pas le premier, je te l’assure, à subir sa rage. Tes idées sont très pertinentes et j’espère vivement que tu continueras à les partager avec nous, sans l’aide d’un traducteur – les gens oublient trop vite [ou ignorent carrément] la beauté qui n’advient que par la suite de l’effort.
on Thursday, June 1st, jose freitas cruz said
Gs you seem to be very concerned about this matter of paragraphs and I am forced to agree with you that they can help make the text more readable, but after reading through these comments once more and especially the scanty stuff you’ve submitted, albeit presented within your wonderful short paragraphs, I fail to find any idea worthy of debate therein beyond the revelation that you find yourself disgusted with the system.
This is all very well, I am sure many of us are. However, this particular place you visit and decide to post your comments to – dare I say, anonymously [and I’ll dare again, not for the first time] – is a place where I try to extract some meaning and guidance from like minded people who find themselves in identical situations, and do so through dialogue and the sharing of experiences and ideas as Olivier has suggested we do.
We do not all come from an Anglo-Saxon background, and the US of A and UK are not at the centre of the universe. One of the valuable things in this forum is the contribution we get from different corners of the globe. Communication does not lie simply in good grammar, syntax and paragraphs, it is much more than that. I would never expect you to speak Portuguese and yet if you insisted in communicating with me in my mother tongue despite your insufficiencies I would be honoured and would make the effort to understand you. What you have written in your last comment [some of these other writings just aren't readable???] reveals your shallowness and an inability to communicate with your fellow Man, an inability that goes way beyond your incapacity to convey a meaningful message.
on Wednesday, May 31st, olivier bijon said
OK never mind I am in another club here. I keep my consignement (french spelling) for myself.
have a good one
O
on Wednesday, May 31st, gs said
Us ADD's have a tough time with those huge mammoth monolithic paragraphs. Glad you cut yours for the response, Walt. Some of these other writings just aren't readable! People! 3-5 sentences make a good paragraph! Especially, on the web!!!
Thats Par - a - graph, people! You want to write? LEARN about them!
Nice to know someone else is tired of the gallery crap! Nice response Walt. Oh I get around Walt, I just don't advertise it! I can't wait for the day you get that lecturn detached from your sternum!
JUST SAY NO TO CONSIGNMENT !!!!
on Wednesday, May 31st, olivier bijon said
I have a mechanical problem with posting and link, don't worry I will improve. It's like painting just the amount of work to wish to put in
on Wednesday, May 31st, Olivier Bijon said
Hi, coming back.Hups...the antique dealer ex one I beleive we should work on this, thanks Paul it's a great topic. Now could we generate something positive of it? Even better can we share our experience in order to find some kind of tool? Is Paul interrested to manage the discussion in order not to loose our time?
I have some idea of tool to submit, don't know if it will be something to work further. But first I would to to respond and share my experience with comments I read last night here.
Forget me if i can't remember name, I have in mind there idea, same for my english I am used to speak French. yes we speak French also in Canada.
After my comment here yesterday the world " talent" has been mention. That's a big one. Specially between artist, and I don't want to be mean. what talent are we speaking about? What's that? Are we talking about aestetic? that's very relative. Are we talking about technique? that's not accessible to everyone eyes. Are we talking about talent to manage the media? Like Y Klein. Are we talking about talent to be in the right movment? Are we talking about being able to manage a nice CV? Are we talking about being all of that, like Picasso did. Or just to be dead at the right time?
Many questions. What is sure is talent help for argumentation. And as we all know it is difficult to conclude a sale without any argument. Nobody want to heard the killer worlds like: "interresting" or "cheap". I never close a deal with such ones. So we need argumentation, but talent is not it all. Between you and me do you think Vlaminck to be a talented artist? In my opinion his expressionist period is horrible (that's the last one). The cezanne period of Vlaminck is just interresting. Now, when he was young, very unexperienced and completly drunk with his friend Derain he created one of the best of what has bever been painted. Talking pricing, if the last period is 10 time cheaper than the first one it is still a lot of money and crap for me.
Now I always had the idea that success kill creative talent. That is to answer to a statement which said here that a more experienced artist should be more expensive. I agree for argumentation of sale prpose, I do not agree for what I call quality. Most of the painters in the 20th c had their best period in an early stage. the only one I can think against that in a quick set is Van Gogh. OK it's 19th but a good friend of me. I had a few years ago a painting of his early Nuenen period for sale, you know the potatoes one. Amazing technique. The way he manipulated great amount of paint was so inovative and excellent. But you know it was not so nice...pretty not nice at all. It was a lot of money and the only reason I did sold it is because that piece was referenced in the De La Faille and has been exhibited at the first retrospective of the artist in 1903. That's why I bought it. That's also why a customer own it today. It is a piece of history for peoples who cannot afford the arles period and we all know it. Vincent just became better and better in his creation... he also never sold a painting.??
I remember younger nobody gave much attention to the post cubist period of Picasso. Blue period at 20 years old that was the must have. But Pablo knew how to get attention on himself..that's an artist. And without drinking or smoking pot. That to say that pricing should not necessary going higher with time. If you have a good product, market it and keep some for you if you like meat.
About bycott of the consignement business? You must be a very establish artist. On my side it's allow me to have exposure,but I also undestand the danger for our business. Consignement allow galleries to accept "emerging" artist with a limited amount of risk. If I had a gallery and have to get money of it, need to buy my stock I will buy only the best or the hottest. It's money but much easier to sell. Buy what your customer want. yes some of the biggest dealers in the past are the one who had the gut to take risk. Like big collectors we speak of the one who has been at the right time with the right artist but time has forgotten all the one, much more numerous, who had the "bad" luck to work/collect the wrong one. We don't know them they are in bankrupcy. So personally I am in favor of consignement, we are so many artist arround and it is also a good way to keep our the customers who doesn't necessary want to buy the big ticket from buying repro from Asia. If you stop consignement you kill all these littles usefull galleries and customers by procedure.
Now I just realize I have a lot to say about this topic. A lot to say about the role and the quality of the critic, the media. Their sens we feel of seeking for drama, provocation,ect..
It will be nice to have a real discussion on that. Nice to invite all the artist of the world, all the critic, all the curator, all the customers to talk then generate a good tool adapted with our new internet enviroment to have some pricing argumentation.
When you put a new chocolat bar on the market, compagny spent big ticket to have their pricing. yes I know artist don't like to have their talent compare to chocolat bar. But you know it is just marketing research for all of us. and it is more difficult in today world to be successful with a chocolat bar. as these product we need a good argumentation to justify our price. i was suprise with the galleries I work with to have just been ask what my price was. As I sais a lot come in configuration, location is one, and i beleive that a negociation or just a conversation should be held on the topic with gallery owner. after all they are the one who know their customers. Up to us to accept it or not. No nothing. 5000 dolls? OK! that's a good point in favor or no consignement.
Anyway, is there anybody interrested on the topin? Should we have a close conversation somewhere on a blog to start with?
My idea: after a good analyse of the situation, from your experience in the field, me I have a better one in the art market thrue a few decades spent in the art market with antiques and high profile paintings. A place where any party interrested could share in order to conduct a tool for us to have a free market positioning for artist. And you know how much could cost these kind of study when they are well conduct by proffesionals.
In a few world, define the situation then lanch a web site where a large amount of the art community can evaluate an artist. To do so, we need some incentive, like a free drawing by the artist when evalutions come to the thousand (let's find a programme to attribuate the price), then to make a statement a good quality feedback of the evaluators, to avoid answer to much influenced by any kind of drugs. Then to be big enought to allow the evaluted artist to used the result in his argumentation.
If you want to do it I will be part of it, but I can also do more for it if there is some interrested from you. I like tuff job.
In the main time I have created alone a new group in Canada. Me alone we are a big group. the neo-mystic. In a few simple world. We/ Me are mystic but neo cf my pin up totem. We do not like religion, border, scary stuff, media with dead peoples, ect we are dreamer, we like music, we like nature, we like colors, specially the Holbein one but their are expensive so we are realistic we still need some money to buy them. We like politic but do not like opportunism, politic is more an ideal for us reality should be in hand of professionals. We as painter like to paint in a group to share experience feeling and a good amount of fun. If you do not have one of these you will not be accepted since we are not looking for numbers.
see you,olivier
no time to read back, oh yeah "We" need a good translator
on Wednesday, May 31st, Olivier Bijon said
Hi, coming back.Hups...the antique dealer ex one I beleive we should work on this, thanks Paul it's a great topic. Now could we generate something positive of it? Even better can we share our experience in order to find some kind of tool? Is Paul interrested to manage the discussion in order not to loose our time?
I have some idea of tool to submit, don't know if it will be something to work further. But first I would to to respond and share my experience with comments I read last night here.
Forget me if i can't remember name, I have in mind there idea, same for my english I am used to speak French. yes we speak French also in Canada.
After my comment here yesterday the world " talent" has been mention. That's a big one. Specially between artist, and I don't want to be mean. what talent are we speaking about? What's that? Are we talking about aestetic? that's very relative. Are we talking about technique? that's not accessible to everyone eyes. Are we talking about talent to manage the media? Like Y Klein. Are we talking about talent to be in the right movment? Are we talking about being able to manage a nice CV? Are we talking about being all of that, like Picasso did. Or just to be dead at the right time?
Many questions. What is sure is talent help for argumentation. And as we all know it is difficult to conclude a sale without any argument. Nobody want to heard the killer worlds like: "interresting" or "cheap". I never close a deal with such ones. So we need argumentation, but talent is not it all. Between you and me do you think Vlaminck to be a talented artist? In my opinion his expressionist period is horrible (that's the last one). The cezanne period of Vlaminck is just interresting. Now, when he was young, very unexperienced and completly drunk with his friend Derain he created one of the best of what has bever been painted. Talking pricing, if the last period is 10 time cheaper than the first one it is still a lot of money and crap for me.
Now I always had the idea that success kill creative talent. That is to answer to a statement which said here that a more experienced artist should be more expensive. I agree for argumentation of sale prpose, I do not agree for what I call quality. Most of the painters in the 20th c had their best period in an early stage. the only one I can think against that in a quick set is Van Gogh. OK it's 19th but a good friend of me. I had a few years ago a painting of his early Nuenen period for sale, you know the potatoes one. Amazing technique. The way he manipulated great amount of paint was so inovative and excellent. But you know it was not so nice...pretty not nice at all. It was a lot of money and the only reason I did sold it is because that piece was referenced in the De La Faille and has been exhibited at the first retrospective of the artist in 1903. That's why I bought it. That's also why a customer own it today. It is a piece of history for peoples who cannot afford the arles period and we all know it. Vincent just became better and better in his creation... he also never sold a painting.??
I remember younger nobody gave much attention to the post cubist period of Picasso. Blue period at 20 years old that was the must have. But Pablo knew how to get attention on himself..that's an artist. And without drinking or smoking pot. That to say that pricing should not necessary going higher with time. If you have a good product, market it and keep some for you if you like meat.
About bycott of the consignement business? You must be a very establish artist. On my side it's allow me to have exposure,but I also undestand the danger for our business. Consignement allow galleries to accept "emerging" artist with a limited amount of risk. If I had a gallery and have to get money of it, need to buy my stock I will buy only the best or the hottest. It's money but much easier to sell. Buy what your customer want. yes some of the biggest dealers in the past are the one who had the gut to take risk. Like big collectors we speak of the one who has been at the right time with the right artist but time has forgotten all the one, much more numerous, who had the "bad" luck to work/collect the wrong one. We don't know them they are in bankrupcy. So personally I am in favor of consignement, we are so many artist arround and it is also a good way to keep our the customers who doesn't necessary want to buy the big ticket from buying repro from Asia. If you stop consignement you kill all these littles usefull galleries and customers by procedure.
Now I just realize I have a lot to say about this topic. A lot to say about the role and the quality of the critic, the media. Their sens we feel of seeking for drama, provocation,ect..
It will be nice to have a real discussion on that. Nice to invite all the artist of the world, all the critic, all the curator, all the customers to talk then generate a good tool adapted with our new internet enviroment to have some pricing argumentation.
When you put a new chocolat bar on the market, compagny spent big ticket to have their pricing. yes I know artist don't like to have their talent compare to chocolat bar. But you know it is just marketing research for all of us. and it is more difficult in today world to be successful with a chocolat bar. as these product we need a good argumentation to justify our price. i was suprise with the galleries I work with to have just been ask what my price was. As I sais a lot come in configuration, location is one, and i beleive that a negociation or just a conversation should be held on the topic with gallery owner. after all they are the one who know their customers. Up to us to accept it or not. No nothing. 5000 dolls? OK! that's a good point in favor or no consignement.
Anyway, is there anybody interrested on the topin? Should we have a close conversation somewhere on a blog to start with?
My idea: after a good analyse of the situation, from your experience in the field, me I have a better one in the art market thrue a few decades spent in the art market with antiques and high profile paintings. A place where any party interrested could share in order to conduct a tool for us to have a free market positioning for artist. And you know how much could cost these kind of study when they are well conduct by proffesionals.
In a few world, define the situation then lanch a web site where a large amount of the art community can evaluate an artist. To do so, we need some incentive, like a free drawing by the artist when evalutions come to the thousand (let's find a programme to attribuate the price), then to make a statement a good quality feedback of the evaluators, to avoid answer to much influenced by any kind of drugs. Then to be big enought to allow the evaluted artist to used the result in his argumentation.
If you want to do it I will be part of it, but I can also do more for it if there is some interrested from you. I like tuff job.
In the main time I have created alone a new group in Canada. Me alone we are a big group. the neo-mystic. In a few simple world. We/ Me are mystic but neo cf my pin up totem. We do not like religion, border, scary stuff, media with dead peoples, ect we are dreamer, we like music, we like nature, we like colors, specially the Holbein one but their are expensive so we are realistic we still need some money to buy them. We like politic but do not like opportunism, politic is more an ideal for us reality should be in hand of professionals. We as painter like to paint in a group to share experience feeling and a good amount of fun. If you do not have one of these you will not be accepted since we are not looking for numbers.
see you,olivier
no time to read back, oh yeah "We" need a good translator
on Wednesday, May 31st, walt said
Hey GS! Ever been to the ones held in old malls? Essentially each shop is a consignment gallery withing an overall space. One cash register. Guess who owns the cash register? Yes each shop pays rent and possibly a percentage of the take. What's the difference between paying rent and paying a consignment fee especially if there is a percentage involved? In fact E-Bay operates in a similar way. The model is really quite similar. Now don't get on yer high horse. I dislike the consignment system as well. Mostly because it cheapens the art. No consignment dealer cares about the art itself except for the purpose of sales. There is little or no active approach of serious collectors. As Paul said it is simply the overhead of renting the space and possibly a little cheap wine and cheese at the opening--if there is any wine and cheese at the opening...if there is an opening...and the artist didn't pay for it.
I think it would be really wise to have gallerists do some research into how galleries were run about 50 to 100 years ago. There weren't many-- which is part of the reason a few did do well for their artists. Only the best and most important work was ever really put up. Gorky couldn't get in for 10 years because his paintings looked like Picasso knock-offs. Originality was prized rather than ignored. Today much gallery art looks like something we've all seen in the art magazines. In fact I'd argue that if it doesn't look like the art magazines it won't be accepted by the gallery or by their buying public.
By the way...I get out quite a bit you know. I just got back from a trip to Texas where I'm researching the art scene for a possible relocation. I'll be in New York again in two weeks and will take a 17 day trip to Argentina mid July to be involved in a two person exhibition of drawings by my brother and my own watercolors. When was the last time you got outa town my friend? It'd do you some good you know.
on Wednesday, May 31st, s said
"drop all your troubles
it's a crying shame
ride a painted pony
let the spinning wheels spin"
It's clear I'm wasting my time here
on Wednesday, May 31st, s said
Paul
I found the city
Found the gallery
Whole lot of slick corporate goulash
Your book "The artists life"
Fiction?
on Wednesday, May 31st, scott said
Scotch for Scott. What town?
on Wednesday, May 31st, audrey said
You're right on. I recently watched a BBC show on the Impressionists trying to get their work shown and sold--nothing has changed in the art world. Gallery owners are not the enemy.
on Tuesday, May 30th, Paul Dorrell said
Scott,
Well that would be a long discussion, best covered over a couple of drinks in a joint I know called Kelly's, where I've been tossing them back since '78. That was when I used to pour concrete, writing my first novels, too broke for college. That was before things got really crazy.
But none of this is that important. You know what's important? This group of inner-city kids we just funded some summer jobs for, in studios. They're incredible young artists who just need a break; I'll put their risks above mine any day.
Let me know when you're in town. We'll hit Kelly's. Mine's bourbon.
PD
on Tuesday, May 30th, rONALD gLASCOW said
I didn't want to personally attack, but Paul....
"I'm an artist too, with all the inherent risks that go into that gig."
I bet you are a doctor lawyer, baker and candlestick maker also!
WHAT FRICKEN RISKS YOU TAKIN PAL? YOU HAVE YOUR OWN CONSIGNMENT SHOPPE (GALLERY).
SCACRIFICE THIS (UMMPH)
on Tuesday, May 30th, scott said
Everbody is an artist. Just turn around and look when you get off the throne next time!
on Tuesday, May 30th, Paul Dorrell said
Erlene:
Glad you enjoyed the book, and blog, although I got more juiced from writing the former.
It looks some folks have had pretty bad experiences with galleries. Rarely have I known an artist who hasn't. A lot of dishonesty out there. That's partly why I wrote the book.
Stop consignment? It's an interesting idea, but given the average gallery's overhead and profit margin, probably not realistic. It would be akin to a writer trying to sell a manuscript to an agent in order to be represented, before that agent has a chance to test the market with publishers--who are the real buyers. Complex issue, better discussed under a separate heading.
Sure some galleries suck--just like agents. But just as many do not--just like agents. Ask me about that one; remember, I'm an artist too, with all the inherent risks that go into that gig.
PD
on Tuesday, May 30th, ET AL said
ALL ARTISTS SHOULD BOYCOT GALLERIES UNTIL THE CONSIGNMENT PRACTICE IS STOPPED!
STOP CONSIGNMENT!
BOYCOT GALLERIES!
on Tuesday, May 30th, Erlene said
Well Paul,
I really enjoyed reading your blog- almost as much as your book.Hope that none of you really entered the art world expecting to be rich or famous-- ha ha if you did. As for pricing, I like the idea of hte mortgage payment it makes about as much sense as anything else-. I price it - high if I like it and it usually sells - if I like it.. Thaks for the mortgage tip- think that I 'll try that for a change !
Erlene
on Tuesday, May 30th, gs said
walt
Flea markets are made up of proprietary sellers. Owners of the goods. No consignment.
Get out in the real world and out from behind that lecturn.
on Tuesday, May 30th, gs said
walt
one word
paragraphs
on Tuesday, May 30th, walt said
Hey Galleriessuck! There is another business that gets free stock...the common flea market. Now there is a comparison for you. Most artists business strategies are equal to those at the flea markets around the world. As Olivier mentions, location, timing and clientelle are key ingredients. And Janusz notes that no one talks anymore about talent, originality and quality of the art. These have become taboo subjects as we try to democratize the arts. Talent is not democratic. Personally I don't believe everyone is an artist and I don't believe all art is good art and I don't think even the most technically proficient art is all that great--but neither do I feel that technically un-proficient work is by contrast any better in most instances. A work is good on the merits only-- whether technically proficient or not. But, as we've seen before, there are few criteria accepted by a majority by which to judge these things any longer. Our Modernist and post-modernist schizms have divided and defeated us at long last. There can be no major school of art under current definitions-- that is, if anything can be art and if art is simiply defined by the artist with no consent or complicity from the public (which public has largely become like sheep believing anything the artist says about their work) then there can be no over riding ideas or methods that bind the times together. The only good thing about this flux is that in times of flux--when most are looking in other directions-- new things are born. Problem with most of our current ways of thinking is that nothing done even 10 minutes ago can be accepted for long as it now immediately becomes part of the tradition of art and to our way of thinking the traditional is out of style. There was a time when something new would at least last for about 50 years before it was out of date. Now it is barely 50 minutes. Part of the problem is that we've disavowed most of the critical terms that made it possible for us to discuss and compare critically both new and old art. So,if artists can't talk about their differences and samenesses artistically, historically and philosophically then how on earth can gallery owners know what to say to their clients?
on Tuesday, May 30th, Janusz Obst said
I do not know if I missed something about this pricing or what but NOBODY talks about quality of work, about talent,about school, new idea etc.
One suppose to compare his work to established artist and take away few hundred dollars just in case? What about an ego ?
Everytime I have to price my work I get sick because I suppose to price the work by the SIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You buy bigger bag of potatoes you pay more, you buy smaller you buy less. What kind of absurd is that? ! I was always looking at gallery owners as a defenders of artist, as a PROMOTERS of art, as seekers of art, as a new patrons etc. It became so commercialized that is sickening, galleries will sell anything just to make a buck and call it art. What happened to the WORLD of ART?
As quilty as gallery owners are the artist who are giving in into this craziness , maybe we should be a little more stubborn, maybe we should defend our soul for sale ?
Have you been recently to New York ArtExpo? It is very sad expierience; stocks of prints, that is it. One of the biggest shows in the world.
It is hard to believe that there is no great CONTEMPORARY ( which means working NOW) painters , sculptors, that the only valueable work WAS 50 or more years ago!!!!!!!!!!!
I really would love to start world wide discusion about XXI century art and its contemporary meaning.
Do we really have to subject ourselves , our contemporary society/population only to pools of water surrounded by trees as an "artistic" expression of 9/11 tragedy?
It seems like we all have only water in our hearts and brains.
Where are we as an artist to say something really loud about that?
Regards,
Janusz Obst.
on Tuesday, May 30th, Olivier Bijon said
You lost my link.
Here it is.Please visit
on Tuesday, May 30th, Olivier Bijon said
Well I am a painter today, bonjour, and have been a long time antique dealer on the international scene. When customers came to see me for an idea of price on a item I used to say : It worth what you can sell it for! You can try to ask a lot if you do not realize the sale you do not have the price in hand. How many times I saw an item making X here in auction than X time 10 even much more in another auction day latter. First in auction you need two customers with a great deal to own the piece. But it is a little bit like that in galleries. If it seat there it does not worth the money. You never heard that? If it is half sold I have to hurry up before price get higgher.. Now another remark is location. Keep the antiques it is a good lesson. Our job as antique dealer was to go in the middle of nowhere seeking for the most precious item and bring it to the best of lest say park avenue, asking an outrageous high price to make it so valuable. Same with galleries, customer with a lot of money doesn't want a 15 000 painting sitting in the living room. Hey I can afford better! To resume I start to make money with antiques when I start to ask for a lot. Before that I was just successfull with very good customers and my lot of cry to pay the bills. Final: customer is king, building a good network is key, location is helpfull but respect that: do not ask for 100 here and sold to 10 there...you are dead.
That's it for my antique experience. Did you like it? Since a year and half I am a painter, I created the pinuptotem.com, and...and never sold a painting. But I am so passionate, findind time for marketing is hard with such a desire of creativity. My web site have thousand of hits everyday but I am still waiting for.. I don't know what. So in the main time I price between 4000 to 14 000 that's Canadian. Hurry up I might double these numbers.
Thanks, have fun
on Tuesday, May 30th, galleriessuck said
I am apalled that the only business that gets free stock is the art gallery business. The first artists who accepted this consignment crap should be crucified. No other business gets free inventory. It's absurd and rapes the artist.
PLUS ...not only do they get free stock...
they treat the artist like crap
...don't pay them..
AND !!! hike the prices over double!!!!
on Monday, May 29th, olgadmy@yahoo.com">olga said
I agree with Jose, Paul - it's very interesting and important to hear your views - thanks a lot!
on Monday, May 29th, Paul Dorrell said
Gabriella:
This is a hot topic, and one of my pet peeves. My gallery, and artists, used to routinely get asked to donate work to various auctions. My response? Sure we'll donate: I set the prices, and 50% of the proceeds goes to the artist, just as if a gallery sold the work. The selling price cannot deviate from what I set. Consequently, we're not asked as often as we once were.
As you observed, the way it's currently arranged does indeed undermine the art market, gives the impression that the worth of an artist's work is minimal, and that artists are therefore unimportant.
When these charities come to me now, I advise that they ask local corporations to donate. Artists? They struggle enough, and should be the last people to ask this of. But until artists learn to stand their ground on this issue, it will continue, and continue to undermine their careers. I'll blog on this at greater length later in the year.
on Monday, May 29th, gabriella said
Paul; Good blog!
I would like you to weigh in with an opinion on the advisability of artists donating work to charitable auctions auctioning off art, and whether or not this practise tends to devalue artist's works.
Numerous times I have been asked to donate paintings to charitable auctions. The very few times I have donated, the paintings went for fire-sale prices. The thought occurs to me, that buyers who can get work so cheaply will then become immune to commercial pricing, and expect to get art-work at huge discounts. I know of people who make it a habit to go from auction to auction, buy up work and then crow about how they have beat the commercial system of exchange.
The usual way organizations approach artists to donate work for their cause is to say that the artists then get "free" exposure and publicity to a broader buying public. Never have i seen dentists being asked to provide a root canal at an auction, or a plumber being asked to provide a free installation of a heat sink, nor would these professionals demean their hourly take for such services by auctioning them off at a charity sale!
Why is it then that artists are considered such sitting ducks for such purported opportunities?
on Monday, May 29th, walt said
Potential clients should always be reminded not only of the struggle and years in the process but the fact that an original work means that there is not another one like it out there. Prices are set in our small contemporary minds by the fact that most commodities are mass produced thereby reducing the cost enormously. But a one of a kind is more like a prototype. Prototypes typically cost hundreds and sometimes thousands of times more than the production model. Think of how much it would cost if automobiles were created one at a time and each new model was an original creation. This is also the reason why a signed original print should be carefully defined as one in which the artist has actually handworked the plate then strikes the plate once the edition is run. Hense the terms original and limited edition and the proof of the limitation. (Often times the artist keeps the stricken plates as proof of limitation and to keep the plates from the hands of those who might try to profit from them.) Personally I feel that the new digital print revolution should not try to ride on the back of terms set up by an older technology but instead create it's own language. Otherwise confusion becomes the norm in the minds of less than educated collectors. Original should have meaning.
I don't sell a lot of my work these days because I've decided that I must receive the value invested both in my personal time creating the work and in the time I've spent learning my craft. My days of lost leaders are over. It never really worked for me anyway. It simply established my prices lower than I could afford. But when I do sell a painting now I never feel cheated. Frankly I tie my prices in to the mortgage of my house. My monthly price being the lowest price I charge so that one sale equals one mortgage payment (with very few exceptions). A more expensive work will pay multiple mortgage payments. (The last large sale covered about 7 months worth of payments.) When I explain this to a potential client they get it right away because it gets them where they live. What potential client doesn't make a certain amount of money per day for what it is they do? And isn't their cash flow related to their expenses? We even talk about how much of the year we work just to pay taxes. This is basic business 101. We can talk all we want about lost leaders, and they are sometimes valuable. But an artist's worth is tied to the price of their last sale. So if we sell too cheap for too long we simply become a cheap date in most peoples minds. If that value doesn't come up in a reasonable length of time then the investor feels they have been sold a worthless bill of goods. Art is not like other commodities. It has value beyond the intrinsic necessities. In fact there is no obvious necessity to buy one or another painting with the exception of defined value (in short the value of the last sale). All other artistic value is percieved value and therefore subjective. Remember that an awful lot of artwork does not rise in value. In fact I can always find a lot of it in the resale shops around town often selling for pennies on the dollar. In fact I sometimes buy it up for the frames. I'm not dissing Paul's system. It probably has some value and most likely works well enough to keep him in business. And may also help a few artists begin to establish themselves. But there comes a time when an artist has to decide whether they are real or not, whether they take their art seriously or not, whether making a living from the art is as important as making something original of value that doesn't have to compete with mass marketed goods. These days there are really only a few artists who can command those kinds of prices. The collectors paying for that kind of work are few and far between. How often have you been to the home of a wealthy business person and seen the low grade tastless stuff on their walls? They'll frame a football jersey as soon as buy a piece of really original art. The idea that every young artist deserves to make a living from their art is a new idea that has no basis in reality. We must remember that the history of art simply ignores those who never made it to the great museum collections so we cannot compare our careers to those famous artists too quickly or without serious self reflection. And those collections are not gathered from the lady next door who likes the color of your flower painting because it goes with the color of her couch or even the local business owner who commissions a portrait of their store front or a portrait commemorating their great grandfather who started the business 50 years ago.
on Monday, May 29th, Paul Dorrell said
Jose,
Thanks. There are more of us around than you may realize. As for the others, I'm forming an integrity bootcamp for wayward art dealers. You can be commandant; I'll be your assistant. Send us your dishonest, your arrogant, your petty art dealers, and we will reform them--or at least have a great time trying.
PD
on Monday, May 29th, jose freitas cruz said
Paul, i’ll say it again: were it that there were more gallery owners/directors like you around! As artists it is tremendously important for us to hear your side of things, and to get the feeling that there are honest people out there who actually care about us and value and understand the difficulties we have to go through. This is sound advice and hope for those who still have those twenty years ahead of them and a good reminder to those who have been at it that long and are reaching the stage when they can start to reap the benefits they deserve. I look forward to reading your views on other aspects of that [othen murky] area where the gallerist and the artist meet.
on Monday, May 29th, Alejandro Mos Riera said
Public eye for three minutes & more
"At the time of art comes to you, no one can put your eyes in healing, and say it´s obvious. Cause all process of art & inspiration was more generous about lefting the laughtable and a toothache. It is a revulsion that is a once directed at the art world. It´s a great improviser, invented chaos about him, meets the eye runs trowaway. A path of pain is inevitable."
I hope that someone gets at first improvisation and blames the misunderstanding on global media conspiracy by local papers. The whole world is to make the other local rag." It´s feasible", says an expert bottle sender. If not when it was for you? "I feel as I don´t exist" or she would say, "I want
more than my husband and my children and my home."
John Berger said “a book cannot change the world. But perhaps it helps to ask to us things us on we ourself”; "About Looking" can be read and think there´s only a revolution inside evolution, but looking is always thinking with the eye. It is tried to classify and to examine types of deformed thoughts and to provide the tools necessary to identify them. Therefore there are a kind indicating presence of deformed thoughts and to develop the abilities necessary to fight them. Great part of the human suffering is unnecessary since it comes from false conclusions that people say themselves to itself on own experiences that create anxiety, rage or depression to them. If a person decides that the bitter aspect of somebody indicates rejection, when in fact what experiments it is envies, is creating its own mood and this will take to him to sadness itself or to be susceptible.
The way towards the reality in this new century, towards the truth of the side life, leaving the skepticism of mediates including Internet and its absurd average smile that tends the hands to the solitaire, the patient, to the dead, in aim to the spectacle. The true reality hides its light when we separated fiction & reality since first never it can be at a level superior to second.
How do you go about establishing fair prices for the works you create—meaning fair to you as well as to potential collectors? Easy. Get a dart board, tape a range of prices to it, toss six darts at the sucker, and see where they land. The middle figure wins.
