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on Tuesday, March 28th, paul said
Micheal,a good subject,tv,and Naim June Pak,comes to mind who used tv s as sculptures for years,last time I saw one it looked old,because of the 1950's styled tvs he used,the ones from the 60's are more contemporary to that time and seem more fresh,even now,although Id say if you dont watch or even have a tv then you are a weirdo,also if you live alone its company,Ive known people who have the tv on 24/7,of course there is the snobbish element who claim to never watch the box,but its a pose,anyway if you dont watch tv,then you dont know whats going on in the world,and if one has children,then its even more important so at school they can keep up to speed with their freinds about the latest cartoons ect,otherwise like a freind I have whose parents didnt have tv,and he was an outsider at school because of it,kids are very conservative of course,but no one wants to be an outsider,even artists who are outsiders to some extent by the nature of what we do,we want inclusion we want to be loved,we only develop anti social comment,styles,or attitude,in direct reaction and degree to the rejection we feel,the developments of cheap old art via technologies andother cheapo low quality stuff aimed at the masses,well somtimes its funny,but always crappy,although occasionly looks kindve good,and Im envious,it goes against our integrity really all weve got,against our individualism,as artists we are supreme individualists,if anything,even if not particularly original ones,nevertheless its our suit.Also this stuff has been around for years,its just someone coming up with a new way of saying the same old thing,like the get rich schemes,or latest sales pitches.Micheal,I'd say to you go get a plasma,you only live once,so live a little,what the hell,one needs a break from art sometimes,although curiously there isnt much art on tv,and Ive watched the evil eye for years,even on the pay tv,there doesnt seem to be much art,Im suprised there isnt a huge art channel all to itself,there may be in the states but not here in oz,or maybey Im missing something,there isnt much art atall in any media,unless its funny,a joke,or a shock,but rareley given proper serious attention.
on Sunday, March 19th, hyacinthebaron@aol.com">Hyacinthe said
Markus and Michael. There are two anomolies here. One is that anything can be done at home to display art. I once made a coffee table out of a painting on canvas. Just poured acrylic polymer over it for a glassine finish. It was quite the conversation piece.
Museums that cater to art appreciators and galleries who want to convince big spenders that the art is novel seek unusual ways including multi media art works to convince potential collectors they are paying a lot for something totally different.
But for the ordinary art buyer in a so called median(affordable range) need to be shown how the work will look in their home or office or wherever they are gong to display it, and that is usually on the wall.
Of course at home one can always arrange some thing a ma jig to cover the big screen TV with a canvas or other framed art work.
At home I have gone so far as to put canvases together in a cube for extra storage inside. This could also be used to hide garbage, dead bodies or anything else that would qualify paintingsas "useful" art.
Well, now that big screen TV's have permeated our lives, my husbands other wife, my grandchildren's visual daily musical video input and so on, we know that everything today is about instant gratification.
How do we explain that art must be appreciated because of all the time it takes the artist to produce it and all the time the appreciator can take to appreciate art?
I am personally grateful for the hours of freedom the Big Screen provides me when I am left alone to make my art.
I was of course, like most of us I am sure, seduced into allowing one into my home. "When I saw the size of the footballers on the screen I felt beseiged, but when I saw the ballet being performed and the feet belonged to giants, my art lover's heart was captured.
Two: Michael Corbin doesn't seem to exist anywhere on the internet and despite many requests remains as remote as his TV Controller.
on Sunday, March 19th, jose freitas cruz said
Markus, i hadn't realised you were taking the micky out of us. anyway, for the past five years or so i've been registering each new stage of each painting - both video footage and still image. the first idea was to have a mutating picture culminating in the final painting. i sold three of those to the buyers of the final piece. the end result was too boring though, too much like eno's work. the next stage is collecting imagery from 30 small size pieces and showing those alongside a projection of the work in progress. this progression will be sold in dvd format to buyers of the small paintings. i still think there are some interesting and innovative things to be done and that the high definition tv can be put to good use. I also have a series of cieling pieces, people were first taken aback but once they get over the initial hangover they see the beauty of the concept.
on Saturday, March 18th, Markus said
I like the idea of a bigger place for Michael. That means he would have more wall space to hang more art. A fresco or two on the ceiling???
Everyone who has more art than they can hang on walls, doors (i.e. see Max Ernst "Entrer-sortir", 1923)... don't we rotate our collections constantly? Same idea as the click, click, change my pic... except you have to drive new nails.
Hyacinthe, Don't forget the early Impressionist shows... were those the 'first' modern 'Museums without Walls'? When art becomes part of a living space, is that a museum within walls? How about the old Roman Forums or stonehenge. Just because we are technifying one level of it doesn't mean the idea hasn't been around for thousands of years.
on Saturday, March 18th, MB said
Now we all know that you chose Miami instead of NYC.
I recently bought a flat screen TV and I can tell you that I'd never go back to a "normal" TV.
Michael, maybe you just need a bigger place...? ;-)
on Saturday, March 18th, barongallery@aol.com">Hyacinthe Baron said
Dali realized this years ago and partnered with Walt Disney to develop holograms.
Internet companies are trying desperately to lure viewers away from the big box to personalize viewing experiences on the Internet by producing new shows, movies and other interactive media for display on the computer.
I believe artists have been making art available on CD's and DVD's for quite some time.
Certainly it has been a big switch in my own thinking. Conceptualize a project, film it as both CD and DVD and get it out there. In fact for real exhbitions these forms make it possible to put on multi project exhibits making use of both computers and big screen TV.
Many modern artists I won't name here have been doing this for years in museums and any space big enough to impact this art form.
Rosenquist made his large works specifically for purchase by museums and eventually the Dia Foundation which dedicates entire buildings such large works. He was quite smart to do so at a time when curators were trying to expand.
This whole concept that you and Jose and Markus are discussing was in fact outlined and spearheaded by my mentor Andre' Malraux in the idea of a Museum Without Walls. So it is important to give credit where it is due.
As to expanding wall space, this is a problem we often faced when setting up exhibitions in our galleries. One way was to follow the old practice of displaying paintings from top to bottom hardly leaving any wall space at all.
The other way was to add panels, free standing 2 sided or 3 sided in a space that can be walked round. This technique worked wonderfully in the gallery as it allowed the viewer to engage in a much more intimate experience with the art works.
Another way to display is to hang paintings, back to back from hooks on the ceiling, letting them swing freely. This is often done in windows.
Another way is to display on doors.
Of course there is always the ceiling but that would require lying down to view the art. Hmm?
on Saturday, March 18th, Markus said
Jose,
I see the farce in this whole idea, the potential for new ways of marketing art. I am horrified that Microsoft will push their Leonardo Collection onto walls in homes and people will think that is better than an original work of art. But what is the difference between the current poster and the future poster that you change with the flip of a button. You don't even have to reframe it any longer.
Click, click, click, I got me a Monet!!!
on Saturday, March 18th, jose freitas cruz said
Funny that you should mention that Markus, that is precisely something that I am working towards on the new project I mentioned to you... but not with such high sounding names. i believe there is potential there for artists.
on Friday, March 17th, gabriella said
i like Markus' idea a lot! There should be an electronic image library, similar to libraries for books. There is compelling video art around, and should be made available to viewers more readily. Libraries of this sort would be a source of income for video artists. And, of course, there are images of paintings that i would like to peruse at leisure on a big screen TV. Otherwise, there seems to be no point in living with one.
on Friday, March 17th, Markus Kruse said
How about some video installations instead of a BSTV???
I am still expecting the day when the Met, MOMA, Microsoft for that matter will let us rent an image from their collections for our plasmas that hang on THE MAIN wall in America's living rooms. Just download it from the Internet. The monetary union of TV entertainment and Internet is happening now.
Well, instead of a piece or original art, we can change to a nice little Irish scene for our St. Paty's parties... How, about a Giotto for any of the Christian holidays???
You know it will be a success. Just imagine all the midwest, middle aged ladies wearing their theme outfits for every holiday... they will eat up thematic art for every occasion...
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on Friday, March 17th, Jasper Geers said
Hi Michael Corbin, perhaps you can buy a beamer, or projector. You connect it with a transmitter or dvd-player. You only need a white wall then; you can make your painting mobile so you can rail it aside...and beam beam beam all night.
Jasper Geers
