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03/13/2006: "WHERE HAVE WE COME FROM?" by Walter King


As you may have noticed I’m very intrigued by where the urge to make art comes from and how it has thread its way through our history. Based on certain facts, artifacts and theories many scholars assume that prehistoric artists made their images , ecorated their tools and bodies for several reasons. Two of the primary reasons seem to be for religious and spiritual reasons as well as for community celebrations.

Along with the first urge to create comes a number of ideas including prayer, communion with the spirit world or universe/nature, etc.. The painting on the wall of a mammoth being brought down by several hunters may have happened before the fact as a kind of blessing…a visualization of what the hunters would like to see happen…a kind of hunting magic! My mother always told me two things as I was growing up. She called me the absent minded professor because I was a very philosophical child. And later when my artistic talents began to emerge she often told me that one day I would be a world famous artist.



Well, whether she intended it or not these things have become self fulfilling prophecies…Not that I’m so world famous but certainly I’ve exhibited a number of times in Europe, in South America and the internet has brought my work and my name to thousands of people around the world. As well I did in fact become a professor of art. And this is something I would never have predicted myself given my dislike of school and the educational process from grade school through High School. Were these cave paintings perceived as bringing good luck to the hunt?

The second primal urge happens once the hunters are successful and the tribe had shared the kill. Then came the celebration! We know that primitive tribes still follow practices and rituals that are thousands of years old. Did they decorate themselves like the spirits they believed were watching over them? Did they participate in ceremonial rituals? Did they celebrate the greatness of the hunters, the luck of the tribe or the benevolence of the tribal gods and spirits by recreating the hunt in dance, retell the tale in song, or make new images on the cave wall, body decorations, or markings on tools and weapons to mark the time in which they were so well fed and happy?

We know that some artifacts like tools and weapons have images engraved or inscribed in such a way to suggest a kind of keeping of a calendar. Certain animals only appear in certain areas at specific times of the year…in certain sasons. These tools may have been a way of keeping track of those times. Other items were carved to keep track of menstrual cylces. And while I classify this as a subcategory under celebration/community it is in fact the beginning of a science of sorts. One that is done for the good of the tribe, hence the sub-category. It is also a sort of history. I always find it amazing that such practices were carried out at such primordial moments in the history of the race. These practices have been traced all the way back to Paleolithic times as I recall. I have far more respect for those minds and spirits we so readily characterize as ignorant brutes.

And these practices have continued through our history and reappear again and again in our societal forms from the smallest rainforest tribes in Brazil to the national and international celebrations broadcast by the media and other high technology even today. The fantastic, imaginative and creatively artistic costumes of the opening ceremonies of the Olympics are a wonderful example of a ritual that has taken place since the beginnings of our history. It is an act of community…in this case the World community.

Well, OK then…if we accept these two primal urges (and I’m not being terribly scholarly about this…just going by the memory of so many things I’ve read over the years- after all, I’m not an archeologist or and anthropologist, I’m only an artist and should be set right by someone who has done original or at least more scholarly research if I‘m making false statements) it seems to me that nearly at the same time as these two primal urges comes what I might call a secondary or following urge…one that is based on the observation of what the first two motivations have called into being. And that is the status of the artist! If an artist makes a cave painting that brings (at least that is perceived to bring) such good luck to the tribe, isn’t that artist then given the status of one with special powers? The term shaman or medicine man or witch doctor comes to mind. And in the beginning this person may well have also been one of the team of hunters himself. But combined with the heroic hunt is this other practice of bringing the attention of the spirits for the good of the tribe. A certain reverence may well have been attributed.



And along with the status of the artist comes the status of the collector. Now I mentioned in another blog about the wall paintings in the Mogollan range in New Mexico that wall paintings could not be purchased or traded so no commercial value would have been involved. These would have been done purely for the good of the community and maybe even a larger community which included other tribes or hunting parties that often passed through the territory. But smaller portable objects like tools and weapons might be traded at what we would consider a commercial value. So maybe our hunter/artist makes a trading trip to a distant area and brings along some of his tools with his magic markings on it. Say and antler used for digging and bashing in the heads of animals during a hunt or even in protection of the tribe against more aggressive rival tribes. In this distant land are tribes who have found that flint is valuable in tool making. So the antler tool is traded for a number of flints.

The new owner of the antler tool, a tool that perhaps is unknown in the new territory, takes it home along with the stories of the great magic it gives in the hunt and the protection of the tribe. And soon the new owner finds the truth of the power of the antler tool. He is able to more easily dig a fire pit, or bash the brains out of a mountain goat once it has been brought down. Or even uses it in battle to protect his family and tribe. Now both the artist/hunter and the collector have gained a new status. And the tool itself may well gain its own kind of magical status so that the owner, whoever it is, is bathed in the magic of the special tool. Now the tool becomes a kind of talisman and quite possibly the new owner is given an even higher status as the chief of the tribe. And upon his death lets imagine that the antler tool is handed to his son who takes the reins of the tribe. Eventually they will learn to make their own antler tools and the original will be hidden away and only brought out on special occasions, celebrations and crisis when the tribe needs spiritual magic to help them. Do we not find this same principle carried on throughout history in the royal robes, carved thrones and bejeweled crowns and sculpted and gilded scepters handed done from king to king?

So, if I may make a pictorial metaphor, now we have a kind of three legged tripod in which communion with the spiritual world, bonding of the community and status of both the artist and the collector holds up the practice of art making. The idea of spirituality has expanded to include beauty as an ideal. The idea of community has expanded to take in the possibility of dissent, protest or a kind of moralizing and chastising of the community (for its own good) which goes beyond simply celebrating the good fortune of the tribe but comes from the same basic urge.

And if you look at the artifacts found in museums around the world you soon realize that the beautiful ceramic glazing and imaging techniques developed on the kraters, urns, jars and bowls of various societies in which water, oils, food stuffs and even scrolls and codexes were sold and stored one realizes that commercial labeling on cans and jars, boxes and plastic wrapped products dates back thousands of years and that it has always been considered art! I think all too often we argue most over the third leg of the art tripod. Can we imagine a time in the future when the wraps and labels we so quickly throw into the waste basket might show up in museums as a cultural history of our times?

Don’t laugh. It is already happening. Many museums collect the art of industrial and package design, graphic design and illustration. Most of us do not consider the decorations and expressions of pop culture to be art. Or at best we make the distinction between high art and low art. While those among us who are pure materialists and practicing atheists try to argue that art may not be at all spiritual, that beauty is simply an electrochemical response to certain mathematical arrangements of color, line and shape…you know those harmonies that strike a chord…still, many artists and admirers use spiritual terms almost blithely when speaking (sometimes directly and sometimes elliptically) of the art they make or admire. The fact that museums and state collections (the royal jewels for example ) exist seems to support the idea of art as a kind of celebration of the tribe and community. I’ve never been to a city, town or hamlet that didn’t have some kind of collection of their cultural history that didn’t include art or artifacts.

But we can easily argue that we either become too greedy and commercial about our art to the point that art avarice seems to cancel out the first two urges. And who among us artists haven’t moaned and groaned that we are not given enough reward and status for the work we do. The first argument leads to a kind of Bohemian purity. Joni Mitchell sings a song about someone who is so steeped in the bohemian religion that they wouldn’t be able to accept a higher standard of living even if “good fortune allowed!” She speaks of artists who go to the grave like virgins…their work never noticed because they would not practice any aspect of business in relation to art. And we’ve all seen artists who we believe have “sold their souls” and their art for the money, making art that pleases like a prostitute sells his or her body. But I really don’t think you can take away either leg of the tripod without losing the impetus and complex value of art and the creative spirit which as I mentioned spreads from the arts to the sciences and other scholarship. These are all tied together propping each other up to support the society and the individual artist. So many of us have spoken of a kind of balance in relation to the making of art and the living of a career or lifestyle (lifestyle is often just a politically correct term to replace the more Philistine “career“..) I often talk to my students using two terms to describe two aspects of their chosen paths in life. One is a “calling” which has to do with the first two legs of the tripod-- the spiritual aspect and the community aspect. The other term is occupation or profession which has to do with the way the third leg intertwines with the other two urges. And I mention that they have to eat, keep a roof over their heads and clothes on their bodies (depending on where they live and the local moral codes of course.) Even if they only survive to continue to make their art ( a very minimal endeavor really, if you think about it-- I’ve managed to live on $10,000 a year while housing, feeding, clothing and even educating a family of four. I do have to admit that I was much younger then and had much more energy though. But thankfully the older I got the more ways I found to gain those rewards that my status as an artist have allowed.

Thanks Joni. I took your advice.In the end, after an artist has had an effect on their community because they help connect and unify our ability to taste, touch, hear, smell and see, and maybe give some hint of that world beyond those material connections to our physical realities they are celebrated and rewarded with either or both status and money. Rodin was given a mansion in which to live and create and he was made a state treasure. Picasso was able to pay all his back taxes with the body of his work and museums have been dedicated to his production in Paris, Barcelona and other places. Churches are full of the bounty of art. State building have huge and gorgeous murals and statues to celebrate not only the state but also the artists who were commissioned to produce them. The Sistine Chapel has been recently cleaned and preserved. We talk of Van Gogh never selling a painting. Yet in reality he sold everything he ever did to his brother who hid them away until a time when they would be appreciated. Sadly this did not happen until after both of them were dead. Gaudy’s work is preserved in Barcelona, and in the case of the Familia Segrada, continued along the lines of his perceived ideas and designs. Is his cathedral only a monument to God? When I visited the ongoing construction I only heard the name Gaudy spoken . In reality it is both a celebration of the Catholicism and unity of the Catalans as well as a celebration of Gaudy’s own faith and creativity. Even one of our local naïve or so-called primitive artists Elijah Pierce managed to make a living both by cutting hair and selling his wood carvings out of his barber shop gallerywhich celebrated the Black Community of the city of Columbus Ohio. His work is now preserved in the Columbus Museum.

I have an iron nutcracker in the shape of a favorite dog that my grandfather owned. He was a carver who made his money at that time carving the molds for gas and water meters. He never thought of himself as an artist but wanted to celebrate his beloved pet and so he carved his likeness and cast it himself. My father gave it to me a few years ago along with his chisels. I never even knew my grandfather had been a carver. I always thought he was a janitor. (We could also speak of the spiritual history of the word ‘janitor’ which goes back to the God Janos or Janis, a two faced God often associated with coming and going whose image was often posted over doorways and entrances to buildings. A janitor is one who keeps both the portals as well as the what is inside in order.)

So I want those of us who have heard this calling, received this talent, both of which are religious metaphors for a mission from God… or if you prefer to call it your obsession which suggests a kind of insanity once considered also to be the result of the touch of the Gods before it became a purely psychological term… or perhaps you think of it as an addiction, then you must understand that drugs were and still are often used to bring on religious experience in many primitive tribes…whatever you call it, however you couch it I want you to believe in the value of what you do and the gift you give to those around you. And that even if you do not perceive the value in their eyes know that they do value it, if only to wish that they too had such an ability. They may not feel they are able to afford to buy your work, you may never find a patron or a collector. But there are other ways to receive the rewards and status of your profession. Just look a little closer to home. Most of us artists, no matter how poor we think we are, have wonderful collections of original art, homes full of the stuff, that many people are quite jealous of. And just as people visit my website to see what I do, there are those in my circle of friends who come to visit me if only to be in my house surrounded by my art and the art of my friends. Along with a little sharing of some wine and warm conversation (communion) and a little meat sacrificed on the BBQ grill they walk away with a new, more beautiful outlook on the world. Or at least so they tell me.


Replies: 40 Comments

on Monday, March 20th, walt said

thanks Margaret and Hyacinthe.

on Monday, March 20th, Margaret Stone said

Hmmmm, I wasn't too clear. I meant that my paper was just another opinion, not this blog. Good piece, Walt...............

on Monday, March 20th, walt said

Jasper, I've been called worse names in my life.

on Monday, March 20th, Margaret Stone said

Re: cave paintings--another thought--perhaps it was kids drawing on the walls, as children are wont to do. They can do some expressive and beautiful work.
And, Walt said "As you may have noticed I’m very intrigued by where the urge to make art comes from and....." I did my thesis on this very thing. Hundreds of pages and references. Just another opinion, really.

on Monday, March 20th, hyacinthebaron@aol.com">Hyacinthe said

Good explanation Jasper, but once again the discussion takes us much farther back at which point the point is being missed again.

on Monday, March 20th, Jasper Geers said

Hyacinthe, I just can't see the macho-male side in this discussion??!! I also have no problem with my feminine sides.

Sorry walter, I don't know why I called you robert, strange -Robert is not a more macho-male name;-)
Anyway, my little system goes like this:

Mankind controling his environment>time to think, reflect & experiment>refinement in techniques+growth of (complex)information>urge for a visual-material informationstream(more stable in time than oral information)

jasper

on Sunday, March 19th, hyacinthe@aol.com">Hyacinthe Baron said

Don't feel bad Walt, I can't do fractions and I had to wait for my son to get to 2nd year of High School, which I had quit by then to have him, so I could finish learning about Osmosis.
You have very many other very obvious talents.
Take care and keep on expounding I love it.

on Sunday, March 19th, walt said

Hyacinthe,

actually I do agree with you. I really never said otherwise. My comment about my father was a facetious remark. In fact I was mimmicking what he might have said about the fact that I had just agreed with you.

And I finally passed my typing class in the 9th grade with a 'D'. I could type 15 words a minute with 15 mistakes. I'm actually better now. Probably 30 words a minute with 20 mistakes.

on Saturday, March 18th, hyacinthebaron@aol.com">Hyacinthe said

Walt, you sound like my husband. Won't sit still for anyone that disagrees with him. That was atrocious from a grown man, good artist and teacher. tsk, tsk. Love your thinking, your spelling leaves so much to be desired.

on Saturday, March 18th, Brad Michael Moore said

trooe

on Saturday, March 18th, walt said

Hyacinthe,

Yoru'e rghit. I splel hrroibly. Especilaly wehn I'm in a hrruy! But hontlesy I was olny mnakig a jkoe abuot the fcat taht I aregeed wtih you. You konw it was olny a ltitle oevr one hnuderd yeras ago taht slpeling was codified. Prevuoisly floks usnig the enlgish language slepled vrey craetively. A ltitle of taht creitivaty slitl lnegirs. Besedis if you get the frist and lsat lteter in the rihgt plcae msot pepole can stlil raed it.

on Saturday, March 18th, hyacinthebaron@aol.com">Hyacinthe said

The word excerpted from my comment is obviously objected to by someone as a forbidden word it goes like this backwards: xes. So much for freedom of blogdom.

on Saturday, March 18th, Hyacinthe Baron said

And I do agree with you that it makes a lot of sense that women probably made a lot of the art in primitive times. Especially art for keeping track of menstrual cycles and seasons which probably lead to the first calendars. This is perfectly logical. Probably makes even more sense than the idea that calendars were developed to keep track of the growing seasons and so forth. That would have come much later. So it might very well have been women who were the first scientists. Hmm... imagine a male telling a female she is right and is thinking logically... simply wasn't done in my father's generation!
My father's generation? And you are attempting to figure out the meanings of art and creativity and imagination?
Spare me the pomposity and the terrible spelling, i.e. Reformation, etc. Exactly my point, if you are going to make art learn the craft, if you are going to write epistles please learn to spell. As an editor I find there are too many typos in the world as it is.
Here is my chart: Women, *** and childbirth + Male fear of women's unknown anatomy + Women imbuing men with courage through symbolism + men trying to control women through magic, i.e. ART and then religion.
Since most of the comments in response to this blog reflect a macho male viewpoint I simply cannot resist stressing a feminist point of view (and believe me I love men and have a husband and four sons)because someone always has to give you guys a wake up call or you'll just keep on with it, whether it beer drinking, or war, or killing with very little time taken out to access your feminine sides.

on Friday, March 17th, walt said

apparently my little chart got cut off when I submitted the post.

It went something like this:

Spiritual>Communal (communicative/status)

on Friday, March 17th, walt said

Elaniii,

I was only trying to use what I've read about and seen concerning archeology and some art historical and anthropological theories I've run across so curtailed my discussion to that kind of insight. But yes of course imagination is an important part of it all.

Jasper, yes the iconoclastic crisis of the Refermation is an important counter. From a spiritual concept the community acted against art. Any primal urge could be seen by a community as destructive. Hence ones needs to understand their status and place in that community. And Jasper, I agree that our ability to recognize a sense of order, organization and beauty is an important aspect in any and all art. I even think it is important in those forms that claim to be anti-aesthetic or anti-beauty. But I also see this aspect as part of the spiritual. Need we look any further than the nearest stained glass window in a church to connect the two?

And yes, I do think the three legged stool, and if we add communication we get the four legged table, still operates in contemporary minds and hearts. I think they are primal urges that may become more sophisticated with knowledge or more burdened with modern baggage.

It all depends on how large one's definitions are for things like spirituality, community, status and how art communicates. If those ideas are defined in small terms then you may find argument with the idea. But if they are large categories or better yet, working principles in which variations emminate then it seems to me that those urges are primary and not erasable. I think no matter how much modern thought we pile on top we can eventually reduce our artistic urges to one or another of those four categories. Actually I think that we always operate from all four. I think the first two are primary and unshakable and the second two (status and communication) are sub categories of the second urge--community. So it looks something like this:
Communication
Spiritual

on Friday, March 17th, Jasper Geers said

Robert,
I know about the big cap in time between prehistoric and hellenistic time, but I thought that your view is that your tripod still works in present time.
But I think we agree in on the point of status. The disrespect of Plato for the visual arts says something about Greek society at that time; Plato, Socrates and before them Pythagoras reacted against a hedonistic society were matter and status were the main criteria, and art was part of those criteria.
you see it as well in the time of reformation in the Netherlands, when statues and fresco's in catholic churches were distroyed by protestants. Art was an expression of power and status for the Catholic institute. That power had to be destroyed and with it the expressionform of that power, the art. Spirituality (for protestants)now was of a pure intellectual and sober order with no place for art as a form of expression of faith.
But I don't say that the making of art now lost his spiritual part, I only say there are people in time who thought differently about the expression of spirituality.

But I want to bring something foreward, a more metaphysical view on your main question: 'Where have we come from?' Isn't there a tendency in nature itself to strife for a kind of what we call beauty? Isn't there a strife for proportion, symmetry, almost mathematical perfection in nature? If you see how beautiful a bug is built or a flower?
People as part of nature must have that tendency as well, pure from the body. A face that we think is beautiful, has certain features, like perfect symmetry and proportion. It's an expression of health and vitality.
Perhaps people started playing with these preferences, with more and more perfection, for more and more purposes?
Oh robert, this is indeed a broad subject as elaini mentioned. But very interesting as discussion.
jasper (away for a few days, swimming in the thermes of spa)

on Friday, March 17th, elaniii@yahoo.com">Andrew said

Walt, going back to the very first part of your blog, where you ask where the urge to create comes from, I can't help but remember that one of my most creative times ever was in early childhood. I felt more like I was driving if I made a 'car' out of a pile of leaves and climbed in, than if I sat behind the wheel of a real car and pretended. The more that was missing, the more I created. As I began to realize that the real was possible, it became easier to make exactly what I wanted to, and somehow this made it harder to create. In primitive societies, there was a lot less to work with, and perhaps it was for this that the few things they made were often very creative. There's a similarity between that leaf car and some artifacts I've seen alluding to images beyond the simple utility of an object.
This blog had too many things of interest to comment on them all!

on Thursday, March 16th, walt said

Jasper, but Plato didn't come onto the scene until well into our history. So I'm not sure his rationalizations have anything to do with our primary urges and motives for making art. Maybe as a form of moral critique after the fact. But we're talking thousands and thousands of years after the fact. Again I am often confronted with my own attempts to understand a primitive (so called primitive) mind from a very modern mindset.

Try to imagine a world where none of the modern ideas we've all grown up with existed yet...in fact it was the very beginning of the experience, collection and categorization of the body of knowledge we have access to now. We discussed before how science may have begun with simple things like learning to keep a calendar. The act of obeservation being one of the cornerstones of science. In fact things like making a fire, learning what to eat that won't kill you, how to bring down a mastadon or other large protein source are all things that begin the process of knowledge. Plato doesn't come onto the scene for a very long time into the future.

And I really don't disagree with most of his view of life as a shadow world where we see, as St. Paul said, "through a glass darkly." Few of us are able to see behind the screen with much clarity. For the most part we're just guessing at what might be on the other side. All our senses are secondary since they go through such photo and electrico/chemical translations (see Bertram Russell's premiss). And if you remember your Plato it means we can conceive the idea of the perfect ideal--we just can't get there...all our attempts at perfection are imperfect. Plato wanted to create a utopian society. But to date none of them have succeeded.

We truly have no direct contact with reality. We live with a sense that there is more here than meets the eye. And early primitives sensed this too. Hence the religio/spiritual aspect of the tripod. Really, I'm not trying to state a commandment for making art, or a manifesto of such. I'm only trying to envision prime motives, original urges, first actions based on likely needs. So I too am just guessing. But I'm guessing at things that somehow seem to have a reflection in my own experience. If I strip away all the modern baggage from my education and my life experiences I come down to three things...a feeling, as Plato said, that the world (or cosmos)is not as it seems and I want to understand more of it. This to me is the open door to spirituality. With this comes my need to be connected to my community, no matter how much a loner I think I am (and I do feel like a loner most the time as do many artists). And after that I need some sense of my status (my place if you will) in that community or at the very least in reference to that community. As you will recall I began by considering status as a secondary urge or motive under the community category. Actually I think communication also fits as more of a secondary issue under community as well. Without the one you wouldn't need the other. On the other hand it, like status, is intrinsic enough that it could well be a fourth leg turning our three legged stool into a much more modern four legged chair-- or no...lets make it a table...our tabla rasa...a kind of slate upon which everything can be written-- upon which anything can happen.

on Thursday, March 16th, gabriella said

Jasper - it is my belief that any object which fulfills its function efficiently and well, in simplicity without added flourishes, is inherently beautiful.
Take by way of example the humble ceramic storage jar. because of the way it is designed to sit firmly, its base proportions have been established and therefore there is a certain beauty in it. The swell of its body is there to provide maximum containment, and its form relation to its foot bears out a certain proportional rightness. its rim is designed to be strong, allow for attached coverings of cloth or leather to be simply attached, and also is in proportion to the rest of its form. Lugs or handles applied allow the weight of the container and its contents to be carried well.
There is certain beauty in the right fit of all of these aspects of its anatomy as an object of usefulness. One cannot separate form from function, they are indivisible as much as is the figure and ground relationship. The marriage of the character of a useful object and its function yields a true beauty -so yes, a sword that works well to do its job is a thing possessing beauty. Any extra carvings and surface embellishments are merely added glosses to the quality of rightness that exists in the object.

on Thursday, March 16th, Jasper Geers said

Robert,

I think Gabriella is right with 'information' as being the fourth leg. The fact that Chinese and Japanese letters are actually very abstract 'pictures' supports her view: Artists being the first writers on this planet.
But your art construction spirituality-community-status has a problem in history, and that problem is Plato, or Platonic Philosophy. In his view the visual arts had a very low status. He saw this life as a curse, like a prison for the soul, reality of everyday life was like a shadow of the real reality of ideas. Making a picture of this everyday reality was like making a shadow of a shadow. The making of a sword was of a higher level than the making of a painting of a sword.

About Shamanism I would like to recomment you some books which are very interesting; 'The Orphic poems' M.L. West, Clarendon Press, Oxford; and 'Dionysiac Poetics and Euripides' Bacchae' Charles Segal, Princeton University Press. They both deal with the clash of culture with nature in Hellenistic time. Apollo versus Dionysus. Order versus chaos.

I futher want to ask you this: Is a good sword also a beautiful sword? I am Interested in your view and also of the other people here.

Jasper

on Thursday, March 16th, K.Bows said

It seems there is always a Joni Mitchell or Bob Dylan quote for everything. But you're right, the more things change the more they stay the same. In a sense though certain universal wisdom dawns new in every generation.

on Thursday, March 16th, walt said

Robert,
You know I got a copy of project Blue Book in the late 60's. I've been reading about this theory for 40+ years. But it has become a very popular belief most recently. X-Files--the truth is out there. The truth is it has become another faith based theory. It has about as much scientific valitidity as any other faith based theory or belief. So if you can accept the possiblitiy of God creating the earth then you can accept the possibility that aliens transported us here. You know I know the guy who did the movie poster and the album cover for 2001 a Space Odessey. That was not the first time I heard this concept. But it is when it began to hit popular culture.

Who knows...maybe God and the aliens have been trying to contact us for centuries. Maybe we just aren't willing to hear either of them. On the other hand, I'm listening. I believe that anything is possible but not as much is probable. Its a wait and see game.

The only problem with aliens seeding the earth that I have is if they created us, who created them?

on Thursday, March 16th, robertmorden@hotmail.com">rob said

aliens brought us here!! kidding...nobody really knows!!

on Wednesday, March 15th, gabriella said

Walt - couldn't "information" be the fourth leg of your little art history construct? Shared information as it were? telling the story of who we are, what we consider germane or important, what we do, where we go, etc. this informs both the tribe insiders, as well as outsiders with whom the tribe comes into contact. A form of visual storytelling, and there is certainly evidence that bears this out. Specific and detailed information marks out the identity and doings of different tribes.
As i go about in my peregrinations around my community i see drawings on the pavement made by the public works department. These inform me of future repairs to the water mains on roads which i may not wish to travel during the repair times.
These urban drawings also notify the work crews of where they are to break up macadam with almost surgical precision. These pavement drawings are elegant in their simplicity, and can be seen everywhere. they bear strong similarity to surgical prep drawings, and are meant to convey information. i am sure others may come up with other examples of how mark making functions to convey information, there are tons of examples. Because after all, is not all art, mark-making, what have you, an attempt at communicating. The whole thing, or idea of communication is really exciting when looked at in all its facets and permutations.

on Wednesday, March 15th, walt said

Oh, Jasper...the celebratory aspect of the hunt is also part of the whole package. I certainly agree with you there.

on Wednesday, March 15th, walt said

Jasper,

how about 'control' magic then . I only use the term magic because there really wasn't much science around at the time. We see the world from such a scientific mind set that we often can't get past it. It is virtually impossible for us to see the world with any other viewpoint. That's why we have a hard time reading ancient texts like the old Testament or Koran. We can't get our scientific mind out of the picture and just see what they saw.

In truth I don't want to pin the artist down as shaman. In fact I almost didn't use this particular term at all. But then we also don't really understand how primiitives saw these spiritual power brokers, medicinemen (sorry Hiacynthe medicine people), priests etc, these are all more modern terms and not exactly what I was getting at. I use the word shaman in the end because it largely signifies an 'unkown' quantity and quality in the one so labled. I could almost get away with using the word artist which carries similar qualifiers and quantifiers. But we as artists have other baggage associated to the word artist. So to step away from some of that I substituted shaman(sha-woman?).

I also want to think that everyone in the tribe or community might have done some of the art that I've seen on cave walls but in truth when works are found from the same time period in quantity they all seem to bare the same mark, as if by the same hand. As if there was one designated to make those marks. Now, artifacts are different. Often they seem done by differing hands even when there is a common style or design. But I think they tend to be more personal since small enough to be carried as tools, trinkets or talismans. While the big cave and wall paintings (and I've only seen a few in NM at Bandilero and the Mugullan sites which are actually not all that old compared to say paleolithic times. So the idea that things differed from tribe to tribe probably holds.

However, certain traits continue from the beginning of recorded history to this day. And I still stand by the three pronged (Sorry Hyacinthe) image of spirituality, community and status. I simply haven't found a way to reduce it any further. Not that there aren't lots of tirtiary reasons and attitudes that can be built on top of my little stool. But I just keep coming back to those three in nearly every thing I see.

Maybe there is a fourth leg but I haven't seen it yet. Any ideas?

on Wednesday, March 15th, Jasper Geers said

Dear walter King,
You have written a nice essay, but I disagree/have another view on certain aspects.
I think you are right that the making of art in prehistoric times is connected with a kind of spirituality. But I disagree to a certain extent that it has someting to do with a sort of hunting magic, that it was primarily for good luck. My view is that the urge for making art comes from the human urge for order. Living in prehistoric times was very dangerous, nature was an enemy, a chaotic enemy, but in time man gained 'control' over his hostile environment. Human evolution is partly an evolution of control over nature, you could say. First he was the hunted, then he was the hunter, killing much bigger mammuths and dangerous tigers. I think it makes more sense than, that the cavepaintings were primarily a celebration of man controling nature. It's like a cartoontale of people winning the battle against disorder, i.e. that what kills you, nature.
On the other hand, you can't control nature totally, that was a fact in ancient times as well as it is today. People were looking for a Why? for storms, floods, phandemics and so on. When you have some sort of explanation (gods or science) than you also have some sort of control or sense of control. Art was one of the expressions of that sense of control. And in a sense an expression of abstract thinking. A lot of primitive cultures use abstract motives as if they want to make a border with nature.

Next, there is the status of the artist. I think that this was different from tribe to tribe, from culture to culture. You can't pin down an artist as a shaman.
Well I want to discuss more on this tpic, but I have to paint. So till next time.
Kind regards,
JasperJ.M. Geers

on Wednesday, March 15th, barongallery@aol.com">Hyacinthe said

...that they were rendered by women, not men. The reason? A certain sensitivity of touch, a delicacy of line and curvature of form, not usually typical of the male artisan.
Gabriella, welll this time I assume it is you, I reprint what I said because it is true, women, no matter how strong they are when they paint, and I too have always been "accused" of painting like a man because of the power of my lines, and yet...there are certain curves, and certain lines that betray me in the eyes of any art viewer who is sensitive to that sort of thing.
Wouldn't it make sense? The men are off to hunt, the women are banished to caves because the men don't understand why the women bleed every month or why their bellies extend for nine months. The women exercising their powers by creating good omens by drawing the hunt, showing the kill, over and over sometimes. And wouldn't the women above all hope the men would return to them and share the results of the hunt?
Are women any different today? Dressing their sons to go off to war and staying home trying to imbue them with powers through thoughts.
I state these thoughts, and believe me there are plenty more where these came from, because I have pondered these issues and tried to explain in the Cassandra's Tear Trilogy. I am on my own private mission to get men to rethink what they think they know and what they often pass on to others as truth.
Walt your explanations are brilliant, it is a pleasure to share in your thought processes and writings because they make sense, and I wish that you especially will begin to ponder along these new lnes.

on Tuesday, March 14th, gabriella said

Well. Hyacinthe - I disagree with your statement that 'delicacy of form and line, and sensitivity of touch' characterize the art of women more than that of men. This is a vast over-generalization, that does more to hurt your feminist stance than it does it good.
It is too bad that so little record has come down to us about the kind of marks made by early peoples to keep track of various aspects and cycles of their lives. Counting and enumerating must have been an early impetus for making patterned marks of useful and ritual objects, and witness the role of mathematics and numbers in the symbolism of religious art all over the world, and in a lot of contemporary art even.
Many years ago I came across a book exploring the role of mathematics in art forms which provide examples of the many ways mathematics revealed itself in much art. i don't particulary care if it was men or women who originated this - suffice it to say that mathematics impacts greatly on my life as a woman and artist, and thank god i was born at a time when learning about this in depth was possible for me.
The old argument that men demonstrate reason and women demonstrate emotion predominantly doesn't hold any water. It used to be that back in art school in the 50s male teachers took great pains to express to me that i had a very masculine way of working, that "I painted strong, like a man".
This was considered a compliment, but not by myself, because i always considered that I did work that i was temperamentally and kinetically suited for. Thank God, those dark ages are over for young women artists!
Yep.... that was a diatribe:-(

on Tuesday, March 14th, walt said

Hiacynthe, Actually it wasn't Gabriella who said that it was me. And I do agree with you that it makes a lot of sense that women probably made a lot of the art in primitive times. Especially art for keeping track of menstrual cycles and seasons which probably lead to the first calendars. This is perfectly logical. Probably makes even more sense than the idea that calendars were developed to keep track of the growing seasons and so forth. That would have come much later. So it might very well have been women who were the first scientists. Hmm... imagine a male telling a female she is right and is thinking logically... simply wasn't done in my father's generation!

on Tuesday, March 14th, Hyacinthe Baro said

Thanks Gabriella: Hey you guys: Walt, Jose, take the time and consider what we are suggesting and see if it doesn't blow holes into macho views on art and male pointed explanations of reasons why art was made, not to mention technique!

I am waiting to hear.

on Tuesday, March 14th, jose freitas cruz said

Walt, you know how I share your views on the artist and the community so I won’t expand any further on what you’ve said so well in that last paragraph. You suggest somewhere in the middle that your text might not be all that scholarly. Perhaps not, who am I to tell, but it is Alive and it makes us curious and keen to go hunting for more clues on the truthfulness or not of what you have spoken to us about. I’ve never cared much for academics – so dry, so ready to prove the other side wrong, constantly forgetting that knowledge is not in the final thesis but in the exploration of the paths that led to it and in opening and following on through the new doors that very thesis opened up. So much has been revealed here in this one blog, both in your text and in the comments, loads of new ideas to explore. Community – communication – communion! Thanks for reminding us what it is we are supposed to do as artists.

on Tuesday, March 14th, walt said

Notebook,

yes. The title comes from Gauguin's famous masterpiece by that name.

on Tuesday, March 14th, noteBOoK said

That are rhetorical and age-old questions:
WHERE HAVE WE COME FROM?
WHO ARE WE?
WHERE ARE WE GOING?
:-)

on Tuesday, March 14th, noteBOoK said

That are rhetorical and age-old questions:
WHERE HAVE WE COME FROM?
WHO ARE WE?
WHERE ARE WE GOING?
:-)

on Monday, March 13th, walt said

Brad,
It seems there is always a Joni Mitchell or Bob Dylan quote for everything. But you're right, the more things change the more they stay the same. In a sense though certain universal wisdom dawns new in every generation.

on Monday, March 13th, BradMM said

To quote, "...And the circle, it goes round and round, and the painted pony goes up and down - we're living on a carousal of time..." - Joni Mitchell

on Monday, March 13th, walt said

Hyacinthe,

I really never thought about it that way but having only recently understood the menstrual aspect (most of my studies were done 20+ years ago and these issues were simply not spoken of) I think you may have a very strong point. It makes a lot of sense that women might be the more likely candidate for much of the ancient art left to us.

Gabriella,

from your mouth to God's ear! Thanks.

on Monday, March 13th, HyacintheBaron said

Excellent essay and investigation of the historical aspects of the urge to create visual works of art. It is interesting and timely as my blog later this month deals with a similar topic, a look into a dig that reveals so much new information as to what we understand about previous cultures and motivations.
I agree about the part women have played in using artifacts to record mentstual cycles such as the heads on the Venus sculptures found in various caves which are basically abacus' in my opinion.
I also always have the feeling when looking at the magnificent drawings in the caves that they were rendered by women, not men. The reason? A certain sensitivity of touch, a delicacy of line and curvature of form, not usually typical of the male artisan.
In addition, because in so many ancient cultures, women were banished to caves during menstrual and pregnancy cycles, they would have had the time and the inclination to record their feelings and to glorify their men for sustaining them and feeding them in the hunt. While the exquisiteness of the animal drawings show a tenderness toward the creatures, again no something one would expect from men.
Again, I am an artist not an archaelogist and this is only my opinion. I would love some feedback on this theory.

on Monday, March 13th, gabriella said

Once again, Walt, you have demonstrated a generosity of spirit in this well written essay.
I wish i had had you for a teacher in art school back in the 60s. There was a teacher then who came close to an encyclopaedic understanding of how art fits in with the complexity of life - Ian MacIntosh - and who dispensed with his wisdom and advices in such a homely fashion. he is now gone from among us, and it is for certain that he is well remembered by those who were under his tutelage. Your many present and past students must feel thus about you ( even the grudging ones), so your good name will be well preseved in a generation of people, while your art that has been broadcast in the world among collectors will promote your artist reputation into the future.