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11/30/2004: "AMERICAN ILLUSTRATION AND PHOTOGRAPHY ANNUAL PARTY" by Walter King


I went to New York over the weekend to go to a party. I flew into La Guardia Friday around noon and caught a cab to Williamsburg where I stayed with an old friend and former studio mate . Steven Burkart shared a studio loft with me in Columbus for about 8 years during the mid 90's. Steve is a fantastic abstract painter and also an art handler involved in moving the work from and to the Museum of Modern Art during their recent new construction period.
Steve's studio is on one of the quaint streets of Williamsburg with its long rows of 3 and 4 story brick and clapboard apartments amid warehouses and random bodegas and cafes. There is a contemporary art gallery on the main floor of the old warehouse called Momenta.



Steve was still at work when I arrived but I had keys and let myself in. I phoned Zach Dilgard a friend who is subletting a studio in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, till January. I will sublet the same space from February to end of April in 2005 while on sabbatical -- a story I'll blog during my stay. Zach is a fashion and fine art photographer from Columbus making his move on the Big Apple. Zach and I hopped a subway train and immediately got lost ending up in China town looking at a tattered Manhattan map and debating whether or not it would be considered cheating to hail a cab. Typical male syndrome. After walking around lost for about 45 minutes we decided it wouldn't be cheating. So we hailed a cab. We were really only a few blocks away.

The American Illustration and Photography annual publishing party-- NYC Nov.5th 2004-- was huge! Zach and I arrived at around 7:45. The event took place at the Angel Orensanz Foundation established in a lovely old synagogue near the Bowery. The American Illustration Annual (the only rival and contender with the Society of Illustrators Annual) and the American Photography Annual showcase some of the hottest, most cutting edge talent working in North America today. In contrast to the Society of Illustrators which has a lot of cross over the American Illustration Annual highlights a lot of conceptual, attitudinal, even post modernist (if you can find a clear definition for this let me know) illustration. Much of it could just as easily be done on large canvases and hung in a gallery or a museum with little argument. I'm not sure how I got into the book this year but it was quite an honor.



The crowd was enormous! I'm guessing between 1000 and 1500 artists and significant others like art directors, publishers and artist reps all trying to talk to each other, looking at the pages of the two new books displayed on the walls, eating and drinking while not spilling cosmos on each other. There was, of course, spillage none the less.

Now I'm going to drop a lot of names in this blog. Some are rising talents, some currently on top of their game and some have been around since Altamira. But they really were, the artists that is, the reason for the celebration. Please forgive me if I sound like a sycophant.

This years American Illustration Annual includes some 'old school' artists from the 60's, 70's and 80's still doing cutting edge work like Sue Coe whose work I first saw while in grad school in the 80's; R. Crumb the underground comic artist from the 60's known for his Devil Woman and Mr. Natural; Milton Glaser who did the famous Bob Dylan poster with rainbow hair and started Pushpin studios and the magazine of same name with Seymor Chwast in the late 60's which had such a huge impact on illustration and graphic design at that time; Ralph Steadman of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas fame;
and the late but singular Saul Steinberg whose images graced the covers of the New Yorker so often from the 60's through the 70's. I have met Coe, Glaser and Steadman briefly in the past. Sue Coe gave a lecture at CCAD and visited with me in the office for about 45 minutes several years ago. I talked with Ralph Steadman at FIT during an American Illustration/AIGA weekend studio tour about 7 or 8 years ago. And Glaser presented a new counting book last year at the Illustrators Conference in Philadelphia. I also met him again briefly when he gave the key note address at the Society of llustrators Educators Symposium some time ago. But I didn't see any of the 'old school' at the party. Maybe the ghost of Saul Steinberg passed through the old synagogue. On the upper balcony where we were allowed to smoke I was trying to light a cigarette and the match kept blowing out. Saul
was that you? I know, I know, I gotta quit smoking.

Some of the more well known contemporary illustrators in the book are: Gary Baseman with his absurd Bosch like cartoons, Steve Brodner who's twisted and tortured caricatures I first noticed in Mother Jones in the 80's, Anita Kunz and Joe Sorren.

I saw Anita and tried to make my way over to say hi. But the crowd around her was pretty thick. So I decided to get a drink and a little to eat first and try later. They had these great little salmon kabobs that looked delicious--so were the lamb chops. And I got another pomegranate martini as well before trying again.

Anita is at the top of her career just now and has many admirers. She was the most prominent and visible artist at the opening and was kind of the queen of the event. She's a Canadian but does much of her work in the States. I'm not sure but she may keep an apartment in New York. I had invited her to speak and participate in an Illustrators Round Table discussion at the college about a year and a half ago. Eventually I managed to find an opening and touched her arm. When she turned I said 'Hi' and we
shared a few words but the crowd was shifting and I had to flow with it or find my drink separated from my hand as bodies closed in. I did catch her later with a smaller group of friends and her significant other standing in line at the Pioneer Bar on Bowery St. for the after party. That's her shooting the Peace sign. Sorry Anita. This is not the most flattering photo--I think I can actually see your tonsils.



I met the very popular Joe Sorren briefly at the first Illustrators Conference in Santa Fe about 5 years ago --not that he'd remember me. Same with Baseman. I've never met Brodner although I really like his work. If any of them were there at the party I didn't see them. But then it was quite crowded.

I did run into Scotty Hull who is an artists' rep from Dayton Ohio and friend. Scotty and I went to school together in Columbus. I think he was a year or two ahead of me. He's a talented artist himself and has run a very successful agency now for many years and handles a number of artists nationwide. You can visit his business site at:

www.scotthull.com



American Illustration is really commentary on Pop culture and popular attitudes. It is primarily editorial illustration at its most vibrant and intelligent. What I like about both American Illustration and American
Photography is that it raises what most consider to be 'commercial' and therefore not important, to the level of fine art. In fact I'm seeing more and more fine art that really looks more like the work in these annuals than ever before. Makes one wonder about the traditional relationship between the two endeavors. No I'll fo further than that...there is, as in many aspects of modern culture, a shift in attitudes at work. The theory has always been that the commercial or applied arts find their sources in the skills and ideas of fine art. But today it seems that the reverse is just as likely. I think, and have held this opinion for years, that the best of any field is high art. The rest is not unworthy, just not the best. History has always maintained that at the top the dividing lines are always blurred. Goya is
claimed by both fine arts and illustration, as is Daumier. Picasso and Matisse both illustrated poetry books. It has only been in the last 50 years or so that illustration and fine arts painting and drawing have been artificially separated so aggressively. But the larger history suggests they are twin sisters of the same mother. The American Illustration Annual reunites the family each year.

Brad Holland was missing from this years Illustration annual, whose work has influenced a generation of younger artists. His is also one of the most prominent and important Illustrators alive in the U.S. today with work published by every important magazine, many newspapers and even exhibited at the Museum of Modern Art. C.F. Payne-- a friend and colleague here at CCAD who is often called the modern Norman Rockwell is also missing. He has also had a big influence on younger illustrators. Brad and Chris are founding members of the Illustrators Conference and more importantly the Illustrators Partnership of America which takes a lot of their time and may explain their absence from the book. Chris has also taken over the Chairs position here at CCAD when I stepped down in January of 2004. The Illustrators Partnership is endeavoring to create a collecting society to police licensing of illustrator's rights much like ASCAP or BMI for songwriters and recording artists. It is becoming the most important organization for the support of artists since the Graphic Artists Guild of which Brad was also a founding member back in the late 60's. I think the IPA will also have an effect on the way rights for all visual art is valued and paid for in the long run. I was a little disappointed by the absence of these two artists as I was really looking forward to being in the same book with them.

The poster(detail) is for his lecture at CCAD in the early 90's. Brad was one of the first artists I invited to speak at the art college when I became Visiting Artist Coordinator. When I asked for the image for our poster he told me it had never been published and that he'd done it some time ago. I don't remember seeing a date on the piece so it could go back a ways. The poster was included in the New York Art Directors Club Annual that year. John Kirk was the designer, I was listed as the Art Director although about all I did was ask Brad for the drawing. John did all the real work. I asked Brad for an illustration that had something to do with education. The image is that of a child suckling at the nipples of wisdom while riding on the shoulders of giants.

You can see Payne's work on the back of the next Reader's Digest.

As I mentioned earlier...I'm not sure how I got selected for the Illustration Annual. I'm no longer a working illustrator even though I get a few things published each year in various venues. I still make the effort because I teach illustration. It is an honor to be published alongside some of the best current and past heavyweights some of whom I've admired since high school. Below is the piece they selected for the book from my entries. It is called 'The World Complete' and refers to a shared Hebrew and Islamic saying that "one who saves a life saves the world complete.'



I wish I was a little more knowledgeable about the current field of photography so I could tell those of you who are more interested in that field about who is in the Photo annual. What I can tell you is that American Photography selects the best from the fields of Fashion, photo journalism, editorial photography and yes even fine arts photography. But you can see the selected work for yourself on line at the twin American Illustration and American Photography site:

www.ai-ap.com

You can also purchase copies of either annual ($45 on line) at the address above. They are really big coffee table books and quite beautiful to behold.


Zach and I eventually found our way back to Brooklyn in time for last call at my favorite watering hole in NY--the Brooklyn Ale House on Berry St. If you make it through there say hi to 'Trippy' the bartender who is also from my home state of Oklahoma.

Replies: 25 Comments

on Saturday, December 11th, Inagada Davida said

Frozen as the lights dim.
Turning ‘round in the glimpse.
Savoring opportunity
the brush swills the paint

Spread thin as the friendships.
Applied thick as the wife
New offspring is born
with the same name, Art.

on Saturday, December 11th, Atanas Lyapchev said

‘I can hear your voice,
but the grate is hiding you,
wood cuckoo!’
?
Atanas

on Friday, December 10th, Zoltan Lévai said

I glanced at the shiny sleeve of his coat,
and my eye travelled up to the frayed collar.

Zoltan Lévai
Artist
Hungary,Budapest
10.12.2004

on Friday, December 10th, Atanas said

:D, of course, the worms can enrich the soil whit worms, however, ‘worms’ hardly...
Congratulations, Walt – 22 entries.
Atanas

on Thursday, December 9th, walter king said

Atanas,

Worms enrich the soil! Good analogy! The more fertile these conversations the better.

Walt

on Wednesday, December 8th, Atanas Lyapchev said

To admit I have no intention to involve at all, but thanks to Wilber the horse... I like that pen - name, Wilber... Actually, we all should be thankful to you because you are really good at spilling ‘bins with worms’. And although no longer I can see your colors flying,
I hope you won’t give up that activity at least because the Life is /would you let me say that/ a Sacrifice. If it sounds too pompous to you just remember Tarkovsky’s picture of the same name or have a look at Jose’s entry.
Btw, Jose, I rate your work very highly.
/I unloose my tongue... I’m afraid./
One more thing, though, John, you don’t mind me to repeat your words, do you?
:)'Keep up the good work Walter, looking forward to your next blog.'
Finally, /paraphrasing ‘Pink F.’/ It’s nice you’re here, guys.Thanks.
Atanas

on Monday, December 6th, walter king said

Wilber,

Never thought you were a bad person, doubt that you're a bad artist. I know a lot of really good artists who have sacrificed everything. Some got some recognition, some not. Some quit and some are still out there doing what they believe is their calling. I also know a lot of really good artists who sacrificed little, always ended up on top and again, some stuck with it and some seemed to say, hey that was easy...now, on to the next challenge and they quit making art altogether.

And of course we all know there are lots of folks who love the romance of being an artist, call themselves artists, wear clothes with lots of paint smeared all over but either never really commit themselves by actually disciplining their art or drop out as soon as they find out how hard it is to survive as a real artist. And of course there are those who may or may not be anything more than mediocre but know how to network, use personal politics, friends, family money or connections or even sleep their way to stardom. As you say there is evil in the world and while it isn't fair it is the world we live in. And we eventually get used to it.

And I wouldn't regret your words too terribly. I just think at a few points we were talking at cross purposes. I wrote my blog on the run so to speak and could have made more effort to talk about specifics, get permission to show other artists work rather than my own and make it much more factual and about the work of Illustrators in America who I think often get a bad rap. For all of their recognition they are among the most anonymous famous artists.

But language is abstract and sometimes fails us. I think the best response to a post or a blog is the questioning or dissenting point of view. If you look at the forum threads the most interesting threads are the ones with multiple points of view and even the ones that sometimes seem to get a little testy. I feel the same way in the classroom for the most part (with some exceptions for immaturity). These days I think we put too much weight on an individual stance within a discussion of this sort. Without someone asking the question or bringing up an alternative point of view nothing gets furthered. This was a discussion, not a debate, not a campaign and not a trial. Discussions are such that both sides try to gain the others point of view and possibly re-think or at least re-state their own more clearly. I think we were doing that very thing.

I appreciate the chance to get to know you a little through your thoughts. The fact that you stuck it out through what I think were a comedy of misconceptions and misperceptions as we both struggled to figure out what the other was really saying was quite laudible. Thanks for challenging me and making me state my views more clearly. That's never a bad thing.

John, Jose, Mike, Atanas, Big ears, et al,
I really appreciate all your responses! Big ears, the pizza idea still sounds good, sometimes wish we could all get together for a pizza and beer. I think these blogs are important. And in this case not to toot my own horn but all the other bloggers and responders horns! I'm sure not all the other bloggers agree with me on some issues but I think getting some of these ideas out there is what this sort of community is about. The discourse engenders possibilities not always possible in isolation. I've been involved at various times with several arts organizations and communities from a small group just getting together for critiques which lead to a series of group exhibitions bringing our work to light in the city where I live to co-founding a small organization for international exchange which had one major success but then folded for lack of support. In the long run we don't know what can come from the info and conversations being shared here. Maybe nothing but understanding...but maybe lots more. It's still a young community this internet world.

on Sunday, December 5th, jose freitas cruz said

walt, i admire the time and the care you take to answer the responses. i'm bad at that. at this distance your new blog sounded like news from another planet to me. i was surprised myself at feeling surprised that the world should continue to turn in other parts of the globe... i was reminded of how (too?) long i've been away from the possible vortex. i agree with john [there is nothing wrong with blowing one's own trumpet occasionally] congrats on getting in the book and keep up the good work.

wilber the horse, i don't want to sound condescending but it is possible to have a family and be an artist: i have a wife and two daughters. i gave up a promissing career as an international lawyer to embrace being a fine artist 100%, 20 years ago - i gave up on the comforts and life style i was used to having, i let go of the freinds who insisted i was crazy and were constantly pulling me back to being normal - and the first years were not easy years, i felt like cold turkey all the way through to the 3rd or 4th exhibition. but they happened, even against the odds of my being 30 and self-taught. maybe my art is mediocre as you suggest must be the case if one compromises. maybe, and i'm just fooling myself and waisting away my life here. but i don't see compromise as being the only alternative. discipline can take you a long way. even in the worst early years (and then again for a couple of years before my wife took up her new job in Y2K) when i had to take up several jobs to compensate for complete lack of sales, the discipline always brought me back to my work and i never stopped considering myself an artist.

keep the faith and you'll get there. like mike says [hang in there, and try to understand that you can do both and still do good, tough work.]

on Sunday, December 5th, john@nolanart.com">john nolan said

Hi Walter
Just want to say how much I enjoyed your blog and congrats on your inclusion in the book this year.Living in Ireland I wouldnt have known about this event and its nice to know that one of the bloggers was actually present and involved. I recognised the old names and will definitely look up the new ones. There is nothing wrong with blowing ones own trumpet occasionally , its an healthy and honest way to lift one's spirits. In fact if more artists did it , outside of gallery control, the art world would be a better place and we wouldnt need to listen to the nonsense pronounced by Galleries regarding the greatness of the chosen few. Keep up the good work Walter, looking forward to your next blog.

on Sunday, December 5th, Wilber said

Walter, I really do want to share my work with you but I really am freaked out about what I've written. I wasn't thinking about the last few years and how some people have been making really negative sacrifices with their own lives if you know what I mean. I really don't teach either, just a few beginning artists have passed through my studio and I've tried to help them.

Truthfully, there is no way I could do my own blog. I would be constantly asking to have my writing erased like I wish all I wrote would be erased here.

I really never ever wanted to sacrifice anything. The starving artist stuff just really sucks. Of course one of the reasons I've had to starve is because there is just so much crap in the market. People like me who give it their all just don't get the breaks the academacists get (not saying you, Walter, your work is not crap).

Because of this day and age, I'm never using the word sacrifice ever again. I really just meant the starving artist stuff. I'll even just use the word extreme for sports and such, like extreme sports or extreme makeovers. Yikes, sorry!

on Sunday, December 5th, Wilber said

Walter, some day I'll show you my work. I just want to add that I wish I hadn't written anything at all. I worry that my belief that one must sacrifice their comfort to forward the progession of art may be misunderstood. This world has much evil. I do not advocate anything negative in connection to what one should sacrifice. Creation is an empowerment of good. I believe in sharing this good. I believe a few of us have as their gift, a will to place humankind'd betterment above their own comforts. Skipping a meal, living without water, or not having children are the extremes I discuss. So please don't get me wrong, I'm a good person. Thanks.

on Sunday, December 5th, walter king said

Thanks guys, both Wilbur and Mike and the rest. Sometimes its worth a little hand wringing to get a matter straight. It's a hard life if only because we spend so much time alone, isolated in our studios and our own minds. It's one of the reasons I've enjoyed teaching and writing this blog. It gets me out there. Wilbur, I meant it when I said I'd like to see your work. Just because I'm interested, not necessarily to judge your words. I have a wide range of appreciation. As I said, I've walked a line between two rather intensly biased fields. And I have both a classical and modern background beneath the more illustrative work that I've done. I like the best wherever I find it.

on Saturday, December 4th, Wilber said

Walter, your work IS GOOD! I DO NOT think you are mediocre, sorry if you interpreted me as saying such. I don't think you made wrong choices in life. Sacrificing everything for your work makes for a crummy life. Why not enjoy life. I'm not sure I ever really had a choice. Destiny or a higher power put this life upon me I suppose (actually this has been a personal question of mine for years. Did I have choice?)

It's very admirable to share your talent among your students. The world needs this sort of thing immensly and thanks you for it.

As for the veil of stage names...well...you were invited to blog, not me. I think you and everyone know, and is aware of, internet veils prior to doing things like blogs. Besides, what would revealing true identity bring to the conversation really? Would my words mean less and be dismissed if I wasn't an artist? Would the quality of my work give my words more or less importance?

I think it takes guts to expose yourself the way you have Walter. As I said before..."just keep going"!

I don't think I ever should have gotten involved in commenting. I advocate extreme sacrifice to art. Such extreme personal sacrifice teaching (oops, I to am a teacher) may only have merit upon those just starting out.

I guess it's put up (show identity/work), or shut up. I will not allow identity or work to hinder the teachings of personal sacrifice for art. So......

on Saturday, December 4th, Mike Fornadley said

Wilber, you can both, a great artistic endeavor and a so called normal life. Been doing it all my life, married family of four, one married the other waiting to leave as the opportunity presents itself. Been with a good company 28 years doing totally unartistically work, in fact much of it manual labor by nature. Been doing art really on a part time basis, in fact if I had to do this stuff full time it would mess me over. Agree that to market your work and to produce is a full time duty, so I choose to produce and put marketing on the afterburner. That does not mean that you couldn't produce an most excellent product. Can understand the frustration about this art business, guess if was easy everybody would be doing it. So hang in there, and try to understand that you can do both and still do good, tough work.

on Saturday, December 4th, walter king said

Oh Wilbur, I’ve never said that I am one of the great artists of our generation. Yes, teaching, by its nature restricts ones time, focus and activities. The result is that ones studio discipline and single minded pursuit of ones art is diluted to one degree or another. I would hope that my work is a little better than mediocre but then I’m in the middle of my own forest and can’t always see the bigger picture. And I often make an ass of myself. But it is also quite hard to have a conversation with someone who is hidden by a curtain leaving me feeling a little too naked and vulnerable out here in the cold void of cyber space. I feel like I'm playing strip poker with you all. But its like I started in a g-string and you're wearing you're entire wardrobe.

So I guess until you’re all willing to drop the stage names we might as well give up the dialogue. What do you say folks? Does pizza sound good? It’s on me.
walt

on Saturday, December 4th, atanas_lyapchev@yahoo.com">Atanas said

Guys it’s a real fun to read your comments,
not blogs, comments only.
Btw, Walter, I agree with you Brad barely likes
pizza.

on Friday, December 3rd, BigEars said

Hey Wilbur, order yourself a pizza...

on Friday, December 3rd, Wilber the horse said

I was going to walk from this blog stuff and never respond again but you sparked just a tiny bit that has made me kick my heels once again, Walter.

Sorry, teaching is a job. You opted out of the struggle in order to gain comfort. Sure, you have children to support, I understand. Dedication and sacrifice includes never having a family. Your family is the art you make. Children are wonderful, I wish I had children, but I made the decision and the sacrifice for all of humanity and not just a few of my offspring. It costs money to raise children. That's money taken away from the art.

We make choices. Some prefer and settle for mediocrity, others strive for greatness and that slim chance of making an impact towards advancing humankind. Sure you can say you are advancing humankind by teaching. That's true, we need teachers. So go for it, but once again the dichotomy, teaching takes time away from your own art.

I guess one just has to decide how much they themselves have to contribute to this world. If you decide that you do have something to contribute and feel your talent will serve this world, then mediocrity may not be a part of your life. Some will choose to give all to the empowerment they were given and sacrifice comfort, having children, steady income, etc., to fullfill their purpose on this planet.

A problem occurs however, when greatness is overshadowed by the predominance of mediocrity.

It's not fair for me to respond, really, my apologies, if neccessary. Not many are willing to make such sacrifices and quite frankly, I wouldn't wish this life on another.

I'll always remember the wife of a very wealthy patron saying as they departed my studio after losing a big, big, sale because her husband saw a controversial piece among my collection......she said as she waved goodbye from their million dollar car....JUST KEEP GOING !!!

Just keep going, Walter! Best of luck to you!

on Friday, December 3rd, wking@ccad.edu">walter king said

I forgot to include the American Illustration web address:

www.ai-ap.com

on Friday, December 3rd, walter king said

Wilber, I'm not upset by your comments. And you aren't too far off target. I admit I was doing a little bragging. I really was honored to be included in this collection. I'm not a part timer in the true sense. I have had a 30 year hostory as an fine and commerical artist, arts handler and preparator, art professor, curator and arts writer. Only in the last 10 years have I had the oppurtunity to travel and attend events connected to my work, see the art I learned about in art history and meet other artists around the world. Sometimes I'm sent and sometimes I pay my own way.

Because I've been teaching I do not have to make a living from my art. Doesn't mean I don't pursue it as stridently as I did when I was making my living from it. I'm not a dilitant. I survived on my art for about 15 years with the last 5 overlapping my 20 year teaching position. I never stopped painting. I did bring my freelance illustration endeavors to a near standstill because I was teaching and prefered to make fine art. Can't do everything at once.

I may sound like a pompous twit sometimes, am taken as an old academic fart too, and because I do both fine art and commercial art I often get slammed from both sides at once...but I'm tough and can take it, most usually with a smile... and I bemoan the subjectivity of the art world as much as you.

But the American Illustrators are artists making something work for themselves, some are like you and like I was, just getting by living in old wharehouses, or store fronts, eating macaroni and cheeze, buying clothes at goodwill stores, and doing a healthy bit of dumpster diving to furnish their studio/living spaces with minimal creature comforts ( I did all that with kids in tow) as they begin to learn how to make a living as artists. Getting into this book might be their big break. They are talented, dedicated and working their butts off. As well there are those in the book who have been making a very good living from their work for years now who have also had an effect on the popular culture. That is one of the things art does you know.

And then there were the old timers, the ones who I admired when I was just a kid. It really was great to see their new work (some I haven't seen in print for a long time, and one is dead.)These are all high quality artists making top notch art that is used in publishing, journalism, advertising...but the interesting thing is that when the work is taken out of the context for which it was created and just hung on a wall it looks no different then...well...art.

Anyway, I appreciate your point of view, often hold same point of view, and work pretty hard at trying to not let it get me down while getting out there with my art to find the right place to present it. Not just because I want to make a living from it but because I think what I do has something to say and I know if I wait for a gallery or artist rep to 'discover' me it won't happen. Galleries and reps for all their promises to work for the artist really must work first for themselves. So they pick who they can sell, not always who does the best, most cutting edge, or challenging work. That will always leave some of us out of the equation for better or worse. Many artists now considered great suffered the same dynamic and had to find alternative ways of getting out. But I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here. You probably already know this.

So take a look at the American Illustration and Photograpy web site. They have the work posted including some that was not selected for the book. I don't like all of it but it is high quality even so. It is really incredible how many of us there are out there. There are more of us than the market can support.

The blog schedual is pretty full from what I'm told. I may cut back on my own contributions to make room for others. But I don't have anything to say about who is invited to blog. So keep adding your 2 cents worth both here and on the absolute arts forum. Stay involved. It is essentially why I think I was invited.

By the way, do you have a web site? I'd really like to see your work. I may not like it and you may not like mine. That's fair and honest. We both have the right to take ourselves seriously and have our opinions about what is and is not 'great'.

OK, this has become almost as long as my original blog.

you can see mine at:
absolutearts.com/walterking

Walt

on Thursday, December 2nd, Wilber the horse said

I have to just not come to this blog area any more. Sorry again Walter, for you just may not be a part timer, I don't know.

I do feel though, that the best art is not in galleries for galleries must cater to an audience of like minds even in the smallest of niches. New art with original motiffs, styles, etc. has yet to acquire a like minded audience and often, good work is just too much for the general audience of a gallery.

I remember a teaching from an art school I attended. It was said that if a group, of say five people, all like your work, then you did something wrong.

Gee, if only I would have become one with the gooosh... such an easier life I could have had.

on Thursday, December 2nd, Wilber the horse said

Wilber the horse is just jealous. Sorry Walter. I am one of the few who actually make their living, if you can call it that, only by making fine art. I can never afford to travel. My advice is, if you rely on galleries to sell your work, you'll always have a job, and a job is the artist's worst enemy.

I have sacrificed simple living comforts for my art. Lived in unheated barron warehouses, some without water. As trite as this may sound, in the past, I had to choose between art supplies and my only meal of the day of which all I could afford was White Castle. often, I chose the art materials.

So it grates my nerves to read about part-timers, with all their artsy friends and comforts, cascading about from city to city in support of their kindred.

I take it back. I'm not jealous, just sorry I got involved and had to add my soon to be forgotton, 1 and a half cents. Oh, and maybe a bit ticked about who is getting the attention in the art world these days for sacrifice and dedication seems to escape most in a mist of....goooosh.

Also, big can of beans to open when discussing subjectiveness, just forget it.

on Thursday, December 2nd, Wilber the horse said

I know everyone loves seeing their face on the Absolutearts home page, but I was wondering Walt, is starting a blog a membership thing? I can't see where or how to start a new one!

The new subjectiveness of art would be a great blog topic. Once, the art schools taught critical thinking and analysis of art which was principle in discerning bad art. This subjectiveness crap is allowing a lot of bad art to dominate the market, galleries, and populace. etc., etc.

on Thursday, December 2nd, Walter King said

I warned you I was gonna sound like a sychophant. I just wish I could have shown the other peoples artwork. Had to get copyright permission to do that though. Not gonna happen with commercial artists.

But I understand you're point of view.
Walt

on Wednesday, December 1st, Wilber the horse said

Ok, maybe Wilber the horse has his(her) blinders on, but it sure looks like this blogging stuff is just a venue for bragging rights.